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1884 Half Farthing
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1887 Shilling, former NGC AU-58
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1887 Sixpence, withdrawn type
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 Posted 01/01/2007  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful!!
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 Posted 01/01/2007  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are tremendously attractive.
To me they were from an era when coins really meant something not only in terms of intrinsic value, but craftsmanship and attention to the elements of design.
I'd like to obtain some Victorian pieces for my own collection someday.
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 Posted 01/01/2007  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too admire and collect the old Queen Victoria coinage but, not as much as I would like. Truly stunning coins OldFartte...thank you for sharing.

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quote:
Originally posted by edix

Those are tremendously attractive.
To me they were from an era when coins really meant something not only in terms of intrinsic value, but craftsmanship and attention to the elements of design.
I'd like to obtain some Victorian pieces for my own collection someday.



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Wow Very Attractive , great eye appeal and great photo's
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 Posted 01/04/2007  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Banjax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
half farthing?!! never even knew that existed! it never existed in the old irish currency! does anyone have any value on this?
oh and lovely looking coins! be worth more than what you may think!
i myself have a victorian shilling 1887 aswell, similar grade to yours. very nice coins indeed. I intend investing in victorian coins in the near future.
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 Posted 01/04/2007  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There were even quarter farthings in some of the commonwealth countries. As a farthing was a 1/4 of 1 penny, so it follows a 1/2 farthing was 1/8th of a penny & a 1/4 farthing was 1/16th of a penny. Not so sure that they were used in Gt Britain though.
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the half farthing was probably used in Gt britain, but I doubt the quater farthing was used, unless it was in the 1700s, can anyone confirm this?
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Britain struck all sorts of "odd" denominations, primarily for use in various colonies where the coins were close in purchasing power to coins in use before the British took over. Though not originally intended for use in Britain itself, the coins bear no markings indicating where they were intended for and are normally listed alongside the "normal" British denominations. This happened during the reigns of both William IV and Victoria.

Examples:
¼ farthing and ½ farthing - struck for use in Ceylon, which was formerly Dutch; the Dutch had a series of tiny fractional coppers in use there, so the British continued this.

1/3 farthing - struck for use in Malta, which was French; prior to that the Knights of St John ruled there. They issued tiny coppers, particularly the copper 1 grano; the third-farthing is it's equivalent.

1½ pence - Krause notes these were sent to Ceylon and Jamaica. They may also have seen use in Cyprus, where they'd have made a handy 2 piastre piece, though the timing seems to be off (1½ pence stopped in 1862, Britain gains Cyprus in 1878). Not sure why the Jamaicans would like them; perhaps it's simply a dislike of copper coins; Jamaica later had its own series of pennies, halfpence and farthings struck for it in cupronickel.

Twopence and fourpence - although Britain went through a phase where the 4 pence was issued as a normal coin (when cab fares were fourpence), they weren't popular there. They were more popular in British Guiana, which was a Dutch possession prior to British rule, and the groat seems to have equated with the Dutch-based quarter-guilder. Fourpence coins continued to be struck for Guiana until 1945, though after 1888 these coins were struck in the name of "British Guiana" and appear there in the catalogues.
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 Posted 01/06/2007  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, those are just gorgeous coins!
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 Posted 03/06/2007  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you still collecting these AuldFartte
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Wow! They are really beautiful coins!

My question to you..I have just begun to broaden my horizons to British and Australian coinage. What exactly does a Victorian type set encompass? I have seen other pics of your coins and think that they are absolutely beautiful and am pondering starting a type set of my own. Any help would be appreciated.

~christina
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Those are awesome! I really like.

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quote:
Are you still collecting these AuldFartte


Oh, yeah. But I haven't picked up a nice Vickie in quite a while. I'll get some more, I'm sure, but many of the ones I need are getting a bit pricey.

ChristinaM - Here is what I'm working on now, a Victorian Type Set based on the old Whitman Classic album:

The Whitman Set is:
¼ Farthing (1839, 1851, 1852, 1853)
1/3 Farthing, copper (1844)
1/3 Farthing, bronze (1866, 1868, 1876, 1878, 1881, 1884, 1885)
½ Farthing (1839-1856)
Farthing, copper (1838-1860)
Farthing, bun head bronze (1860-1895)
Farthing, veiled head (1895-1901)
Halfpenny, copper, (1838-1860)
Halfpenny, bun head bronze (1860-1894)
Halfpenny, Veiled Head (1895-1901)
Penny, copper (1839-1860)
Penny, bun head bronze (1860-1894)
Penny, Veiled Head (1895-1901)
Threehalfpence, silver (1838-1862)
Threepence, young head (1838-1887)
Threepence, jubilee head (1887-1893)
Threepence, veiled head (1893-1901)
Groat, young head (1837-1855)
Groat, jubilee head (1888)
Sixpence, young head (1838-1887)
Sixpence, jubilee head, Withdrawn Reverse (1887)
Sixpence, jubilee head (1887-1893)
Sixpence, veiled head (1893-1901)
Maundy set, young head (1838-1887)
Maundy set, jubilee head (1888-1892)
Maundy set, veiled head (1893-1901)
Shilling, young head (1838-1887)
Shilling, small jubilee head (1887-1889)
Shilling, large jubilee head (1889-1892)
Shilling, veiled head, (1893-1901)
Florin, "godless," (1848-1849)
Florin, gothic (1851-1887)
Florin, jubilee head (1887-1892)
Florin, veiled head (1893-1901)
Halfcrown, young head (1839-1887)
Halfcrown, jubilee head (1887-1892)
Halfcrown, veiled head (1893-1901)
Double Florin, jubilee head (1887-1890)
Crown, young head, (1839-1847, 1879)
Crown, gothic (1847, 1853)
Crown, jubilee head (1887-1892)
Crown, veiled head (1893-1900)

Gold is not included in this set. There are really serious collectors of Victorians that get all denominations from all countries that featured Victoria on their coinage (India, Hong Kong, etc.) plus major varieties of her coins (beaded denticles vs. pointy denticles ... lots of minor stuff like that) but I've never tried to get an actual count of how many coins that would be.

Just the Victorian British type set with the major varieties included as "types" is about 88 coins or so, again, not including gold pieces.
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Fantastic!! Thanks so much for the info... I'll be sure to post some pics when I start this set.

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I'll be looking forward to seeing those pics
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