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Help With Biblical Tyre AR Shekel Coin

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Here is the best photo I can get. Any ideas?
Hello, I'm new to your forum. I picked up some priest items at an auction awhile back and it contained some smalls.

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100.5 KB I came across a picture of this coin accidentally in my old coin book while looking for another coin I had. How do I find out if it has any real value or not? Any reputable dealer recommended in Indianapolis area? This has a very shiny surface ... yet has pitting that I would expect to see on old money. Any ideas on its worth? How do I know if it's silver or other metal? Thanks.

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I'm having trouble with your links......
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Oh, gosh! Guess it won't open the pictures. Must be something else I need to do.
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Hi rajuncajun

Make sure that your file name does not contain any symbols like X ,, only numbers and letters.

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It's the brackets. Click on the bad links, go to the URL bar at the top and manually delete the "%20"'s and replace them with the spaces and brackets. It worked for me...

It does indeed look like a tetradrachm of Tyre, but the pics are a bit too fuzzy to offer an opinion on genuineness. Be aware these things are sold as "thirty pieces of silver" coins, and often copied as such, too.
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Attractive coin. I hope it's authentic.
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I'll try tomorrow to take better picture outside lighting. Thing is too shiny and reflects off camera (I'm not good with settings). Thanks.
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What is the meaning of ADD? raj
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Just means I'm adding info (i.e. changed the pictures). I dug up other stuff that was with it. The priest was a Brother Marcus, probably been passed away fro sometime. Their was lots of small religious books, prayers, medals with early 1903 and such dates, found some items where he must have attended the Eucharistic Congress in Chicago in 1926--fabric embroidered items they must have wore, then there are couple of coins, one on yellow/white ribbon other is coin with 1833-1933 and what looks like Chicago in background and an indian head? Also, old small 3" ink/pencil set--old dip ink type. Hope coin is authentic, would be oldest coin I have, others I have are like 1867 and 1883.
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Originally posted by rajuncajun
Hope coin is authentic, would be oldest coin I have, others I have are like 1867 and 1883.



If you don't have a dealer in ancients nearby, best thing to do is weigh it on a postal scale. Then get a book on Drachms from Tyre (seaby makes a nice line of books, there are others) and look up the correct weight. It won't be exact, since these are hammered, but should be in the ballpark. Looking at the picture however, the color looks off to me. Tetradrachms were of silver, but your looks too yellow.

If you have a macro setting on your camera, use that for coin pictures, they come out much better.
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The thing is very silver and kept reflecting so I adjusted the color so you could see detail (bad idea, I guess). I will do as you said and get a book too. Thanks. dot
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I have to say the shininess makes me skeptical - a real ancient coin shouldn't look like that, even if you polished it up. I still can't make out the detail from the latest version of the pics, but this might help: here are some pics of Tyrian coins from CoinArchives. And here's what the Sear catalogue of Greek coins has to say about the coins of Tyre:

The tetradrachm should weigh around 14 to 14.5 grams and be about 30mm across. The smaller didrachms are 6.5-7.2 grams and 24mm. The coins are dated, using the Greek alphabet-numeral system; dates begin from year delta (4) of the city era = 123 BC, and can be found with dates over 200 (sigma). The date-letters are found to the left of the eagle, above the long, pole-like thing in front of the eagle.

The portrait on the obverse is Melqarth, the Phoenician version of Hercules - the pole-like thing on the other side I mentioned before is actually his club. The text around the eagle says (in Greek) TYROU IERAS KAI ASULOU: Tyre, Sacred and Inviolate; the city claimed Melqarth as their divine protector.

Catalogue value for tetradrachms, in the 1998 version I'm using, is £130 for the earliest types (~120 BC), £120 to £110 for middle-range dates (~60 BC to ~20 BC). Later ones are listed in Sear's "Greek Imperial" book; coins dating from around the time of Christ's crucifixion are actually among the cheapest in the series at £90. Year 30 AD would be City Era 156, or PNS. Didrachms, though smaller, are scarcer and actually worth about the same.
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Thanks again, Sap. I will try to find a reputable coin person, if not, i'll just hold off. Going to do that postage meter thing today--curious :) I dug up more stuff I had and this was definitely in a priest's collection (early 1900's) so I'm hoping for authenticity. I did check the coloring to another 99.99% silver item I possess and it is of the same color but that don't mean nothing. I like this site, going to spend more time here as I have picked up other items that I don't know about. One thing I did learn, don't throw anything away! :)
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