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Why Do "Basement Slabbed" Coins Go Relatively Cheaply N Ebay

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Maybe I'm answering my own question as I used to completely ignore basement slabs at auction, but now I check the pics out a lot and feel I have gotten some nice bargains on them.

Is it that the "overgrading" turns people off so much they wouldn't buy it at any bid?

Or are most like I was and just don't even look at coins that reside in a NNC, NCC, etc. etc. slab?

I just won an auction for a coin that is labelled MS66 in the basement slab. I grade the coin itself as MS63 from the pics. It sold for what would be a <XF40 price, but it definitely looks BU minimum from the pics.

Seems so many are so turned off the the slab that they don't really look at the coin itself...? I'm thinkin'

Any opinions on this?
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Lots of people don't even look at those auctions very closely because (almost) everybody knows that those basement slabbers will overgrade the coin, sometimes severely overgrading it. With that said, if you are looking for a coin and you can tell from the pics what the true grade might be, or you are willing to take a chance on a coin then by all means you will find seom deals.

Lots of people who buy slabs obviously want to leave them in slabs, but for those who would be cracking it out of the slab and they like the looks of a coin in a poorly graded slab, then by all means, free that coin and use it, just don't rely on the slabbers to be accurate at all.

Slabs typically command a premium due to the reputation of the TPG (PCGS, ANACS, NGC mainly), so all that goes out the window with the basement slabber too.
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Because they are not considered a reputable company whose standards are not stringent enough (too many perfect MS/PF 69 & 70's), and are trying to take advantage of the ill informed by using "closely resembling" acronyms similar to ANACS, NGC and PCGS which are considered the top three (alphabetically, not necessarily in that order). Stick with the Top III and you should do fine.

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Buy the coin not the holder.

There, covered both sides.
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I do buy the coin. When doing so, it would seem that coins in the "unreputable" slabs present greater bargains because there is an extra "stigma penalty" attached to them that drives their prices down to well below what a "raw" coin of the exact same grade/condition would bring. That's what I guess I find interesting. Take that same coin out of the BS slab and put it in a flip and it'll go for double the price.

Kinda weird anomoly really.

It seems like having it "basement slabbed" regardless of what they graded it - which is usually ridiculously high - further erodes the value folks put on it. So it is as if the purpose of the slab ( to legitimize and inflate the worth with a ridiculously high grade ) is countermanned and the coin gets less desirable than even its raw counterparts.
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When doing so, it would seem that coins in the "unreputable" slabs present greater bargains because there is an extra "stigma penalty" attached to them that drives their prices down to well below what a "raw" coin of the exact same grade/condition would bring. That's what I guess I find interesting. Take that same coin out of the BS slab and put it in a flip and it'll go for double the price.


You've actually hit the nail on the head there. Although we talk here about the idiot bidders who push crud coins to the Moon on ebay, in reality the large majority of ebay coin bidders have a pretty good idea what they're doing. They aren't risking their money on basement slabs, because of the prevalence of Details-grade coins in MS66 "slabs."

If you know what you're doing, there are some serious deals to be had.
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