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2001 Sacagawea Proof... The Sham Key

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There are more than two million beautiful proof 2001 Sacagawea Golden Dollars in the world... perhaps closer to three million, depending on whose numbers you use... combining coins from the Silver and Clad sets. This is the same number of shiny golden dollars as you will find in several later dates... and all of these coins carry little to no premium... not like the vaunted 2001 S Sacagawea which once demanded astronomical prices and has cooled down recently.

So who is responsible for the hype behind this sham key? I mean, imagine if there was a Barber half dollar Proof that was minted and there were 2 million of them in existence and 95% of them graded out at Proof 69... what do you think that coin would be worth? How many would every collector have in their collection? Heck, when a classic coin has more then 100,000 examples available- like a common date Morgan or Peace Dollar- they become worth little more than melt... unless they are available in an uncommonly high condition.

For the 2001 Sacagawea proof only a PCGS PR-70 gives it any cache over what you'd likely to find everywhere you look in the market.

I ask myself, how can a valuable key coin be readily available in a $20 proof set (the 2001 clad) which could be had any day of the week for even less than that. It's not possible, really.

So who again, I ask, has hoisted this petard upon the collecting community? The TPG's with their unrealistically low populations on moderns- which add thousands of dollars of value to an MS-68 quarter from 1998 because tens of thousands of collectors would never consider paying someone fifteen times the value of the coin to examine in and put it in an airtight capsule?

Don't get me wrong. I love collecting moderns. I feel more kinship to them than to older coins that I cannot afford in the high grades I like to own. That said, shame on whoever it was that ever said this 2001 base metal token was worth anything more than a trifle over face value... because it's more common than any silver state quarter- and we all know how worthless they are.
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A few years ago, I saw a PCGS PR-69 2001-S Sac going for more than a 2001 Silver Proof Set, at the same dealer.
Let's see, one brass-plated copper coin in a slab for $90, or the same coin plus 1.3382 oz. of silver for $10 less.
Talk about a no-brainer!
(And the 2001-S Sac in that Silver Proof Set is very high grade!)
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Exactly, practically ever 2001-S Sacagawea is proof 69.
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The reason for yhe high price of the 2001 S Sac was the sky high price of the 2001 silver proof set. While there were about 2 million 2001 S sac's made around 800K of them were off the market locked up in the silver proof set which was running a super high price as the second rarest silver proof set. (During the early part of the decade the set was pushing $300. In recent years it has trended down down down because people are finally realizing that although it was "low" the mintage wasn't really that much different than its neighbors.)

This gave the 2001 S a much lower availability and a high price. As the price of the silver set has fallen more Sac dollars have become available and the price of this "key" has tumbled. The decent has been slowed more than you would expect because naturally people do not want to lose money on the coins they bought. They also have the "reputation" as being a key date which also tended to hold the price up. Having once been a "key date" I would expect it to always bring a higher price than the other coins but eventually the difference will be small.
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Mark my words, high grade business strikes during the Satin Mint Set era will most certainly be the keys to the series. Especially in the rim-date period where it will not be clear at first which "position" is the rarest in high grades. This rareness of the 2001 set- even if it was drawn on the inflated price of 2001 proof set has always been false because of the ready availability of the clad sets. If anything the silver coinage should have been inflated more than the dollar.
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