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Have had this soaking for about 7-8 months and have been trying to attribute. I think it is a Carinus. Found a few coins on wildwinds that are almost matches. RIC:325, 325v., 329. These do not have the exact portrait but is close. The S on the reverse is also different. Any help to ID this coin is much appreciated!

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 Posted 12/01/2011  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eddop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is Carinus.
RIC 325F S/XXI,
obv: IMP C M AVR CARINVS P F AVG, Radiate and cuirassed bust right
Rev: VIRTVS AVGG, Carinus and Numerian holding Victory on Globe

Antioch 4e emission may/june 284.

This coin was also struck with * above the officina letter

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 Posted 12/01/2011  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,yes non doubt carinus,it's very nice....maybe you can clean it a bit more,or maybe you'll prefer leave it as it is,however compliments it's really beautiful!
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I like it the way it is. nice coin
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Carinus is right and IMHO leave it as is. It looks good without further cleaning.
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You did a nice job bring out the detail on this coin, and I like the lighter patina remaining, especially on the reverse.
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Very nice coin. Was this from and uncleaned lot?
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Below are pics of the "uncleaned" coin along other coins I received in the same order. Obviously the coin looked good before my ministrations; it is my hope that it is better after. Let me know what you think. I am new to numismatics and want to learn more.

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Your coin is an RIC 325. Eddop expanded that into 325F S/XXI. The F recognizes that the coin has obverse bust type F (radiate cuirassed right) but that is the only way these come so that really adds nothing to the plain 325 in this case. 325 is a coin of Antioch when they were using nine workshops (officinae) noted by the Greek numeral (in this case S). S is the English letter most like the Greek numeral for 6. What we call this numeral varies on who you read. The original 6 was digamma, a letter the Greeks dropped from the alphabet centuries earlier but they needed something to stand in so we start seeing 'Stigma' which is like an S but often with the bottom look a bit smaller than the top or even more of a tail than a loop. It is a handwriting thing. Any workshop number still falls into RIC 325. Your reference to RIC 325v just means that the person writing it saw a difference between the coin and the RIC listing and added v for 'variety'. Every die was a bit different and there will be many listings by people who don't own or understand RIC so this could just mean that someone had a coin marked RIC 325 which had a different letter and did not realize that any 1-9 is still 325.

The listing for 329 is just wrong. 329 is a very similar coin of Tripolis and should have their city mark TR in the field. Tripolis did not number the shops in the same way as Antioch. It is a bit unfortunate that they put their mint city mark in the same place that Antioch did their shop number. Both cities issued coins with and without a star above the figures. This is noted in RIC but it does not change the RIC number. This is a 329 of Tripolis (with the star):


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I know you get tired of my same old song but the confusion here comes from listing coins to RIC without actually looking them up in RIC. When you see a similar coin attributed to RIC 325, you need to know what RIC considered significant as a difference and what was all lumped into one number. This is hard to do without looking it up in the book itself. I am not saying everyone should run out and buy RIC (especially RIC volume V which is very out of date and soon to be replaced - we hope). I am suggesting to place less emphasis on forcing every coin you see into a numbered box. The proper description and cataloging for this coin uses words you can understand and not a number that you really don't know if applies or not.

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(especially RIC volume V which is very out of date and soon to be replaced - we hope).

According Sylviane Estiot RIC V-I will be replaced on January 1th 2012.

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 Posted 12/02/2011  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the reverse with the rest of the lot.

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