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Otho Fake Or Not?

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 Posted 12/05/2011  05:08 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rusevbg to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi again, I found an Otho denarius in a bulgarian auction site and the price is pretty for a coin like that. What do you think is it fake?





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12/05/2011 05:09 am
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 Posted 12/05/2011  05:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hate trying to pass reliable judgement on coins such as these from a picture, as to determine if they are genuine or not. From the picture, it looks fine. Would the auctioneers be able to offer more information about the ownership history of the coin to establish it's provenance?

In all of my years of collecting, I was never fortunate enough to acquire an Otho, and have personally seen very few. That does not make me an expert.
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 Posted 12/05/2011  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see nothing wrong about this coin, BUT these Otho coins are faked perhaps as much or more then most high-end coins. Do you know the auction house and do they have a guarantee? You don't say the price, but Otho coins can be pricey. If the price is too good to be true, then it probably is. I believe this Otho is RIC 10, so one of the more common types, common be relative in this case.

When I was in the market for an Otho, I emailed perhaps one of the foremost authorities on Otho coins about rarity of issues. Here was his response:

"there are 15 different Otho denarii and it is very unlikely more can be found. They were minted in three series of five types each. The first issue had the long obverse IMP M (RIC 4, 8, 14, 16, 17), the second the short IMP (RIC 2, "6r", 10, 6, 12)and the third this in combination with PONT MAX reverse (RIC 19, "20s", 21, 22, 24). Using RIC numbers the frequency of the types is, starting with the commonest:

8, 10, 4, "6r", "20s", 14, 19, 24, 16, 17, 12, 21, 22, 6, 2

RIC 14 is substantially rarer that the SECVRITAS and PAX coins with right facing Otho (the left facing ones are very much rarer) and it is rarer than the commonest PONT MAX type, Ceres."

If you are not in any particular hurry, I can contact this authority to see what he thinks of your coin. But only if you wish.
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 Posted 12/05/2011  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rusevbg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a regular auction web site like ebay, but it's Bulgarian. The guy who sells the coin has a little feedback, but it's all positive. I have like 6 days til the end of the auction. @jwharper , I would really appreciate if you can ask for another opinion. I'm so thrilled with this coin becuase Otho and Caligula are the emperors I need to complete my 12 caesars set. I bought maybe 10 coins through this web site and only one turned out to be fake, which is a good percentage. Thank you.
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 Posted 12/05/2011  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will contact my acquaintance, but I have no idea how long it will take for him to respond. I will let you know when I know.
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