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 Posted 01/19/2013  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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All of the ATBs including the previously announced sale date for White Mountain are at the bottom of the calendar in the TBD section. Hmmm... Some strange goings on are afoot.


Just so we have them here to refer to, the original tentative release dates for those pucks are:

2/12 White Mountain
4/13 Perry's Victory
6/13 Great Basin
9/13 Ft. McHenry
11/13 Mt. Rushmore

And I do see on the US Mint site that release dates for these are now TBD. Curiouser and curiouser...
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 Posted 01/19/2013  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Teach to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This news sure doesn't sound good. I wonder when we will find out what is going on? I hope this isn't the end. Maybe they are just so low on silver they aren't sure they are going to have enough to mint what they need to make them for the release date. Maybe they are using the silver for the sold out ASEs now?
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 Posted 01/19/2013  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe they don't want all the different coins out there at once so they're frightening all that really want an item to buy quickly. I want to get AK so I better do so quickly. Weird how Hawaii was sold out when no where near the limit was met
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 Posted 01/20/2013  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDCrow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I might have to stick with the strictly bullion issues from now on. I thought $230 was bad. I just can't justify paying that kind of spread for the 2013 vapor blasted version. Hopefully I can come across a few down the road at a more reasonable price.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Clint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Has anyone here bought both versions of Hawaii? Can you describe the differences specifically? I've seen other designs in both versions, however this design is the only "post-modern" one.
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@Clint: Hawaii Volcanoes is one of those classic designs that's not overly burdened with detail as some of the other issues are. Either the brilliant finish or vapor blasted works well for highlighting an already spectacular design. Or better yet, try to get both as it is shaping up to be the breakout coin of 2012. The low distribution of under 15,000/20,000 per type is attractive too.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kurrykid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Has anyone here bought both versions of Hawaii?

What are the 2 versions?

Thanks.

Dave
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 Posted 01/20/2013  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bullion and uncirculated (P mint mark)
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 Posted 01/20/2013  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kurrykid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, got it!

Thanks.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're welcome
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 Posted 01/28/2013  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some good news about the 5oz. pucks at last!

Here is a annotated portion of a Coin World article that appeared today on CW's website by Paul Gilkes pertaining to the 2013 ATB coins:

"The Mint also removed tentative release dates on its website at http://www.usmint.gov for Uncirculated 2013-P America the Beautiful 5-ounce silver quarter dollars. Mint officials said they removed the dates while they work to solidify specific release dates and establish mintage levels.

America the Beautiful program

White said the U.S. Mint has experienced no production problems or planchet delays involving the America the Beautiful 5-ounce silver coins.

Production has already begun for the 2013 bullion and 2013-P Uncirculated collector versions of the White Mountain National Forest (N.H.) and Perry's Victory and International Peace Memorial (Ohio) 5-ounce silver coins, White said.

Mintage levels for the bullion and Uncirculated numismatic versions still have to be determined, White said.

The early release by the U.S. Mint of its 2013 product schedule in December "was part of a continued effort to give our customers as much information as possible to make their purchasing decisions throughout the year," White said.

White noted the December announcement also advised customers and potential customers that the schedule could change without notice, and would be also updated when release dates for products to be offered later are established.

"In releasing the product schedule as well in advance as possible, we knew that pricing and date changes for some products would inevitably occur, as the dates did regarding the 2013 America the Beautiful Five-Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coins," White said. "We look forward to announcing the revised dates on the product schedule as soon as possible once they are determined.

"We regret any inconvenience this date change may cause our valued customers who purchase America the Beautiful Silver Uncirculated Coins," White said.

The 5-ounce bullion coins are struck on a dedicated press at the Philadelphia Mint using 3-inch planchets as received from the Mint's outside supplier. The blanks have been upset on the rim, annealed (softened through heat treatment) and sonically cleaned.

The ultrasonic cleaning to the planchets helps eliminate buildup of debris on the coinage dies that would require a halt in production for cleaning or replacement of dies.

The Uncirculated collector versions, struck on the same planchets as the bullion versions, are subjected to a post-strike process. The Uncirculated numismatic versions undergo a "vapor blasting" technique after striking, resulting in a finish replicating that used on 3-inch bronze Mint medals.

The bullion version of the 5-ounce coin bears no mint mark. The Uncirculated strikes bear the P Mint mark. "
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 Posted 01/29/2013  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Teach to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bizy, glad to see some news! I hope they decide to have a low mintage of these pucks in 2013 to make them a little more scarce in the future.
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 Posted 01/30/2013  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Teach to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is from the MINTNEWSBLOG about the pucks.... "In response to some other questions, I was informed that the mintage levels for both numismatic and bullion versions of the coins had not yet been determined for 2013. Production has been started for the White Mountain National Forest and Perry's Victory Memorial 5 oz. Silver Bullion Coins. Production has not yet been started for the numismatic versions of the coins"
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 Posted 01/30/2013  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if I will be buying at 244 with spOt so low compared to price. I didn't buy any at 279 so I guess time will tell
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 Posted 01/30/2013  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well the price of these pucks are now back at $229 which is still 7 times melt. They are now back to better levels. Although I did make up my mind not to purchase any more at the higher levels I am now thinking that time will tell. My decision not to purchase did cost me the Hawaii puck I just couldn't justify purchasing at that price.

The current price level is what I paid back in November, 2011 but I'd rather pay what the prices were for most of last year, $205. As was stated above "time will tell". Although I said that I was through with this series at the higher price levels, I may get back in. It does hurt that I missed the Hawaii puck but it was just to rich for me.
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