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I'm with Bizy on this one, I don't understand why Hawaii is going for so much more than the other coins with similar mintage numbers. I guess since the mint stopeed selling them early and people hear the word "sold out", they just start going crazy for that product. Same thing probably would have happened with the other coins if the mint just stopped selling them early like the Hawaii coin.
Anybody want to guess what the max. mint pop. will be on a 2013 puck? Under 15K? Under 10K?
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My guess is they will make less since the coins haven't really been selling that well, even at 204 95. I won't be buying at 244 95 unless spot goes way up from 30 or so. Gettysburg sold at as well but I think there were many of bullion sold. Who knows less of I think the last 2011 were minted and no rush on that. Weird how Hawaii sold out like it did though
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It's really going to depend when in the year these coins are going to show up and how far/closely spaced together the releases
are. The FS program has been a sales disaster in 2012, with all of the releases coming in the last quarter of the year, turning even the dedicated collectors of the First Spouse coins off.
White Mountain should at least have a 15,000 distribution if the prices holds @ $229.95. If it's priced @ $244.95, there would be probably be a drop-off of at least 3,000. I suspect that's why they were pulled off of the calendar and into the TBD section, as they may have heard enough negative price gouging comments to realize that making only 10,000-12,000 coins might not be worth the time and effort. Then if the price of spot silver goes up a few $'s then they will have no qualms about putting out the coins at $245. After White Mtn, I will guess no more than 12,000 each of the remaining four. These year's designs are not spectacular enough to pull in non-collectors this year.
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I know that buying a 5 oz coin is probably best for bullion purposes but I don't personally find them very appealing. That is probably because they are just bullion. I absolutely love the ATB Quarters and was thinking about buying some of the pucks but after seeing them at a coin shows, there just isn't anything appealing about them. Now I know they're not like the silver proof ATB Quarters I have (which are awesome), but I have seen circulated ATB Quarters that just look so much better than the pucks (again, not the same thing). Just my 2 cents but I do wish they had more eye appeal (even though I Know that's not really important with a bullion coin). Edited by Kurrykid
02/11/2013 5:59 pm
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Well, I agree the bullion version is not outstanding, however the p version is. If you don't find some you like, I gotta wonder... Believe it or not, I'm not really fond of Hawaii, but I'm thrilled to see the bump it got. It is a modern design, so "yea" for modernity. I'm watching for other releases with variety of finish as part of the design, like Gettysburg. That is amazing. Get one in hand and you'll understand.
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however the p version is How is the P version different? |
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im just not keen on the new mint prices for them when once again silver drops below 31 but I know I will still buy the next 5 for 2013
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How is the P version different? Added mint mark and different finish. Its a lot like the ASEs the bullion and the uncirculated Ws are very similar, but the bullion sells for around melt while the w is 10-15 dollars more. For the pucks you may get lucky on ebay once or twice but you wont find the P versions for bullion prices from any of the retailers |
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The bullion looks like a proof from somewhat unpolished dies. The p is "vapor blasted" and looks like an all-matte proof (no brilliant surfaces).
Edited by Clint
02/11/2013 7:34 pm
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Interesting...Coin World has a few of the 5 oz pucks graded (NGC) MS69ER (Early Release) for $229.95...that's about the same as the normal price, isn't it?
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Kurrykid - it depends... that is the current price I believe. I am with a few others on these, these are more of a bullion release to me than a collectors coin. I find the 200+ price a bit too much of a mark up over bullion and other than a curiosity of having a 5 ounce puck - I just don't see the appeal. @229 I'd rather chase down several chunks of pure bullion, than hold a 5 ounce over priced chunk.
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It was the price for uncirculated from the mint. When the Hawaii first went for sale at the mint the uncirculated (P version)) were 204 95. The bullion were tied to spot from what I understand when first sold. Resales I guess can be whatever price
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I wasn't sure if I was allowed to post a link so forgive me moderators if I am violating anything: GettysburgGlacierHTH Edited by Kurrykid
02/14/2013 11:31 am
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Hmmm, some confusion here, perhaps exacerbated by my inability to find the coin on CW. Anyhow, MS means it is truly the bullion version, NOT the collector-p version. If it's a Hawaii MS-69 for $229, buy it now and thank me later. If it's anything else, then yes, it's probably overpriced.
ETA: thanks for the links. No, I wouldn't buy those.
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02/14/2013 11:34 am
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