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Help Me Learn - 1886 Morgan

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 Posted 12/08/2011  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Far better detail but now it looks dipped.


There's not a large enough "devil emoticon" for that comment.

But the change in photos would lend itself to a further discussion on photo manipulation. This would be especially helpful for those who see a dazzling ebay image and then get buyer's remorse with the coin in-hand.
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 Posted 12/08/2011  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CitizenPatriot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, SuperDave - it looks dipped, and it's going back - no sale.

As for photo manipulation, I try to keep mine to a minimum, preferring instead to "get it right" inside the camera whenever possible. Every digital photo from RAW files can benefit from a little judicious sharpening, and mine are no exception.

I've ordered my copy stand and Jansjo LED lights, so my photos should begin to show more improvement over the coming weeks.



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 Posted 12/08/2011  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On my computer your 1st photo was better for grading purposes and I could tell right away it was dipped and no more than AU...Good luck!
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I think your color is still off a mite, if its not been cleaned, I see your still shooting dead on at the coin and not over head, and in the tent,,that's why I'm referring to the color... it will be interesting to see how you do when you get your stand...
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 Posted 12/09/2011  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I agree, SuperDave - it looks dipped, and it's going back - no sale.


That was said in jest.

If this coin has been dipped, it was done well enough so that it cannot be determined from photographs. Just like the overwhelming majority of coins which have been dipped. Done right, it's not possible to tell a coin has been dipped.

It is purely the nature of diffuse lighting which makes it appear dipped. Diffuse lighting does not accurately represent luster. What it does, in fact, is present the classic appearance of an "overdipped" coin, the only stage of dipping which can be accurately determined from a mere photograph. Your first set showed a coin with excellent luster, and that's the coin you have.

By all means, return the coin if you wish, but not based on my opinion one way or the other.
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Based on both sets of photos, I will say textbook MS-63
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