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Odd 1967 Nickel - Won't Tone With The Rest Of The Set

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Picked up this after-market centennial set a while back and didn't really pay attention to it until now. all of the silver coins toned beautifully (by my novice standards) with the exception of the nickel. Did I get suckered with a non-silver nickel or can a silver coin in essentially the same environment as others not tone with the others at all?

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 Posted 12/08/2011  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My other question is, would toning like this affect the value of the coins at all?
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 Posted 12/08/2011  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The nickel is nickel,that's why it didn't tone.
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 Posted 12/08/2011  02:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
really dumb question then
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Did you (and/or anyone else) learn something from your question? If the answer is "yes", then it was not a dumb question!
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Actually that nickel is slightly toned. Nickel doesn't tone like silver or copper per se but it does take on a NiO patina. It's just so slow and so shallow a protective layer it's easy to say nickel doesn't tone. But it does. If you remove the patina with an acidic cleaner (only way it will come off without a lab and some special gasses and fluids) it will reform depending on the temperature and exposure to oxygen. It's quit visible when you compare a protected nickel to an unprotected nickel (99.9% variety of nickels like this one).
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really dumb question then


only dumb question is the one not asked.

generally it is said that toning does not affect the value of a coin....in reality if I was looking at buying it I would be leery as toning can hide imperfections...
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I grabbed one of these sets about 3 years ago at a garage sale
Decided to crack it open and low and behold the 1967 dollar was the diving goose variety.
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Here's a slightly dumb question, can nickel or copper-nickel coins have silver-like toning when they have been lying next to toned silver coins for quite some time. I have coins that really resemble silver and they fooled me a bit.
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Cupro nickel coins can take on a radical toning, it's all about metal percentages at that point. I'm not sure if the proximity to silver affects things much. Likely whatever is toning the silver is toning the cupro-nickel as opposed to one type of coin affecting the other.
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Here's my set w/ a toned nickel...



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Are these 'after market' coin sets worth anything? I have a neighbor who has a sereies of them. About 10: pennies, nickles, war sets, etc.
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They are worth what the coins in them are worth. There is no premium.

At a minimum the $1.85 face value in silver is currently worth 14x that face value ($25.90)

Beyond that, it will depend on the specific grades and eye appeal of each coin.

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 Posted 10/05/2012  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you buy that set at the Camrose Coin Auction? I was there and saw the same set.
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Dumb question...?
NOT, read my signature below.
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In my opinion, and I always say this, is that if the coins within the album or set are of equal grade and high eye appeal then together the value is more. To me, at least. This may not reflect the reality of it in a real market, though.
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