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First Victorian--Auld Fartte, This Is For You!

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 Posted 01/04/2007  10:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add texasmick to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Auld Fartte, you inspired me with your wonderful coins. So when I was at a coin show recently, I picked up the following. I don't know the first thing about it other than I think it's a shilling. I suspect the four panels on the shield represent England, Scottland, Wales & Ireland. I paid $8. Would you be so kind to share something?

First-Victorian--Auld-Fartte,-This-Is-For-You!

First-Victorian--Auld-Fartte,-This-Is-For-You!
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 Posted 01/04/2007  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Victorian piece
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 Posted 01/04/2007  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gnome to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you notice the way pence is spelt, with an S.
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 Posted 01/04/2007  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by gnome

Did you notice the way pence is spelt, with an S.



Wow no I didn't thanks for pointing that out
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 Posted 01/05/2007  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's not "pence" as in denomination, that's "pense", a Latin word, part of the motto of the Order of the Garter: HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE, roughly translated to "Shame on him who thinks evil of this".

The four quarters of the shield represent England (top left and bottom right - the pre-eminent positions in heraldry), Scotland (top right) and Ireland (bottom left). Wales is "merely" a Principality, and not represented on the shield.

As for the coin itself, it is indeed a shilling of 1888: KM#761, Spink#3926. The type (Jubilee small head) was only issued for three years 1887-1889. Mintage for 1888 was a total of a bit over 4½ million.

There is an 1888/7 overdate listed in the catalogues, for slightly more than the price of a "normal" 1888. I don't know what it's supposed to look like, but there does seem to be something odd about the last 8 there.

I'd grade your coin a British Fine, American VF. $8 sounds fair enough to me, especially if it is actually the overdate.
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 Posted 01/05/2007  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would agree with the fine (American) I do not see the VF though but still a nice example
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 Posted 01/05/2007  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I blew the picture up to 800%, it looks as if the last eight has a bar across the top and an angled line through the bottom loop of the eight, which could form a 7.

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 Posted 01/05/2007  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texasmick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info! I'll take a loupe to the date tonight.

As for price, "fair" is all I was looking for. It's hard to get a bargain by making an ill-informed impulse buy!
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 Posted 01/05/2007  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations on your first Victorian !!!

Sap beat me to all the good information, and he's correct on all counts of course. You got a nice Shilling, and a good price, too. I like it !!!
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