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Chinese 10 Cash To Identify

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Maybe it's me, but I find the illustrations in Krause for Chinese coins to be particularly inadequate. I don't have the need for a specialised book of Chinese coins as they form just a small part of my collection, but is there an entry level book that I could study?
Meanwhile, I'm stuck on these:
Chinese-10-Cash-To-Identify

Chinese-10-Cash-To-Identify

and this:

Chinese-10-Cash-To-Identify

SCWC references would be really welcomed.

Many thanks,
Bob

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I have an old, out-of-print reference on exactly these coins, "The Minted Ten-Cash Coins of China" by Woodward, a 1970s reprint of a series of articles from a Chinese journal of the 1920s and 1930s. Correlating it with the varieties noted in Krause can be tricky, especially when Krause is often unhelpful in what distinguishes one variety from another and the pics in Woodward aren't much better than the ones in Krause.

When I get home from work tonight, I'll look these up for you.
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OK, I'm here again, so here's my best effort at reading what you've got. Note: spellings of province names are the same as those printed in the Krause catalogues. Modern Chinese spellings are different.

#1: Kiangsu province, Empire, undated, obverse "small Manchu characters", reverse "9 tentacles at end of dragon's tail". Die pair L-9, Woodward #827, best match for Krause is problematic given the sparse definitions given there, but I think it's supposed to be KM/Y# 162.7.

#2: Hupeh province, Empire, undated, obverse "large top characters", reverse "one cloud below flame-pearl". Die pair C-5, Woodward #462, best match for Krause KM/Y# 122.

#3: Hupeh province, Empire, cyclical date 1906, obverse is too weakly struck / badly worn to ID properly, reverse "plain-tailed dragon with bar-shaped cloud below pearl". Most likely die pair with that reverse is P-23, Woodward #497, Krause KM/Y# 10j.1.

#4: Republic, General Issue, undated, obverse "8-shaped knot, single line in bottom corner of left flag, cup-ended ribbons", reverse "diamond-shaped rosettes". This type is known to have been minted in Nanking. Die pair AC-26, Woodward# 1047, best match I can find in Krause is KM/Y# 303.

#5: Much the same as #2, right down to the die variety as near as I can tell.
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Thank you for your time and effort as ever Sap

Your Woodward lead took me to this:

http://coincoin.com/bkCC.htm

which others may also find useful.

Thanks again,
Bob
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