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New Member
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What do you all think about these bad boys? 1885   1897   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like an AU coin and a VG coin.
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New Member
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What grades AU and VG though? Is it AU and not MS because of the toning and minor nicks?
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Pillar of the Community
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The 1885 is AU because it has seen circulation. It's value is $35-$40 depending on who buys it from you. the 1897 is worth about $30, or less than $25 if you sell to a dealer.
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I will go with AU-53/55 on the first and VG-8 with some light scratches on the second. The first coin grades AU because there is friction that disturbed the natural mint luster. If you compare the surface around the chin to the area just under her hair and the area around the stars and letter you will notice that there is a slight difference in the way light reflects of those surfaces. Toning and marks do not keep a coin from grading MS. There are coins where an entire side is toned and others that had more marks than yours and they still grade MS.
Edited by D0ubl3Eagle
12/15/2011 6:22 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Some dealers are paying $25 for Morgans? My dealer pay $15 on a good day. That's why I don't sell to him  |
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I said less than $25, you must have a real cheap dealer!
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New Member
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How can you tell it was caused by friction and not just toning? BECAUSE of the difference in shades? This doesn't happen with toning?
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How can you tell it was caused by friction and not just toning? BECAUSE of the difference in shades? This doesn't happen with toning? It has nothing to do with the toning. The coin is worn. It's seen circulation. Not much, but it's circulated. It's plain to anyone who has looked at more than a few hundred Morgans. |
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So the toning and wear are unrelated? It's possibly to have both?
That's why I'm asking, so I know how to spot the difference... It almost looks like the toning is being worn off on the left side of the coin a bit. Is that how you determine wear?
Edited by calikevin
12/16/2011 04:35 am
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Pillar of the Community
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The coin tones for/from various environmental reasons, particularly if it's collected and/or stored for long periods of time.
AU stands for "About Uncirculated" as in, "just about, but not, uncirculated."
The wear and dings on the coin show it's been circulated...the toning, "then stored" (that's one scenario)
I'd say AU53/55 is fair.
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The 97bisn practically destroyed byb harsh cleaning, IMO.
The former shows as au 58 for wear on the surface, fields, and rim ding at seven o'clock
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Rest in Peace
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The real give-away of an AU vs unc coin is the circulation hairlines on the cheek, and slightly muted luster in the fields. You can see what looks slightly like 'slide marks' there.
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Thank you j_h_s, Piffin and Shadow! All very helpful for my future coin ventures.
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