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I have purchased a few coins that just came in the mail a moment ago. I paid about $5 each for all of them. I figure I got a decent deal considering these coins go for twice as much for lower quality, often enough. I may upgrade one day to a better example but I couldn't resist the price.

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Julian II

Soon I will be attributing these. I wonder if soaking in distilled water might improve these coins?
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 Posted 12/17/2011  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Julian II actually looks better in hand than it does in the scan.
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You done good, especially for $5 each. I'm partial to the Constantinopolis coin. The Roma coins can be very nice, but good examples are hard and expensive to find. I've been on the look out for a quality Roma. One where the hair of the wolf is visible. That may be one of the more common Julian II coins, but yours looks like it has pretty good details, expecially once you clean it up a bit. Anyway, I'll be interested in your attributions.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice examples.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the first attribution I think is.

CONSTAN-TINOPOLIS

BSIS

Siscia

RIC 241

Constantinopolis Commemorative AE3/4. 334-335 AD. CONSTANTINOPOLIS, laureate, helmeted & mantled bust left holding sceptre / Victory standing left on foot of prow with sceptre and leaning on shield, •BSIS• in ex.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By Jove, I think he got it! When referring to this mintmark, however, it is dot SISB dot. For whatever reason, the dots are as much a part of the mintmark as the letters. Control symbols as mentioned in a previous thread.
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I'm having some problems with the second Roma coin.

VRBS-ROMA

Wearing visor and crested helmet.

Wearing imperial mantle.

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She-wolf and twins, two stars above.

I think that I see TR, the other letters I cannot make out. There is that orange colored material in exergue as well. So, I think it's from Trier.
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I tried to use the font to use a dot but it didn't come out right from Notepad to here.
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So far, I haven't been able to find the exact RIC ID for the Roma coin. Going to the Julian II for the moment.
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Unfortunately, I'm not finding a match for Julian II either, at the moment.
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I think you have done OK, especially with regard to condition.
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For the Julian, I think I see SIS with and unknown letter in front, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's from Siscia. With regards to that unknown letter, looks to me like a gamma or a B. Sooo... possibly RIC 415 Siscia? In hand, what do you see in the exergue gil-galad?
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It does look pretty close to Siscia RIC 415. I also saw that one as well, but exergue looks more like gamma SIR to me. I can't check it right now since I have it soaking in olive oil.

And also, some coins are not pictured at some of these reference sites and even some are not in RIC.

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Yeah, that last letter looks a little meh to me also, so I just went with S. When the mintmark becomes clearer, try using Helvetica tables. it doesn't have any pictures, but I've been able to attribute (and re-attribute) coins with Helveticas with no problem.
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The mintmark on the Julian II looks like it could be GammaSIR, but I can't be sure. If it is it may be Sirmium RIC 108 or a variant. I need to check to see if "gamma" can also be part of RIC 108. I'll do some checking and see what I can come up with.

On the Roma, I can't make out the MM. Can you make anything out with it in hand?
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All look worth $5 each - the first one a bit more IMHO. I would have put them in DW but not oil. The Roma could have benefited from careful picking at that crud on the mintmark. Sometimes pushing straight down on something like that with a pin with crack it and allow water in to soften but don't scratch or scrub.
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