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1883 Liberty Head Nickel

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 Posted 12/17/2011  9:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Thanks in advance to all to choose to grade this one.



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 Posted 12/17/2011  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks uncirculated its a nice coin.
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 Posted 12/18/2011  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NicO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be low-end MS to me. Nice coin!
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 Posted 12/19/2011  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect that if this is MS, its higher MS rather than lower. Can't tell though.
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 Posted 12/19/2011  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NicO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be higher, it's just hard to tell with the pictures, as you said. Not much evidence of luster there, although it does seem relatively free of any distracting marks.
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I think it looks to be about MS64. The reverse appears to be a decent above average strike. Nice coin.
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 Posted 12/19/2011  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a pretty coin. Just a few areas of softer strike (stars 2,7,& 11-13) with no distracting marks whatsoever.

MS-62 works for me, possibly better than that in-hand
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12/19/2011 10:22 pm
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Looks nice, I agree with MS based on these photos but would like to see close ups of the reverse corn cobs and stalk leaves.
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grade, I'd say MS-63. I don't really agree about it being a great strike though. It's about average. This date didn't have any particular strike problems and this piece definitely has a few worse than average stars and I don't entirely like the hair above the forehead or by the bun.

With so many of this date (with no cents) being plentiful in nice grades and with the toning being more distracting rather than attractive, unfortunately, I'd only value this guy at around $50 tops. It's still pretty nice, actually is better than the one I currently have in my collection
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Agree with it potentially being higher MS if it is MS. I don't see many hits at all on the coin - with the prime areas being especially clean.

I believe toning isn't supposed to be taken into account with the technical grade, but it can affect the value as hesgut mentioned. The deciding factor on MS63-65 for is just how much luster is remaining. Tough to tell from the photos.
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 Posted 12/20/2011  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My thoughts FWIW ...

It is impossible for us to decide whether or not this is an MS coin based on the photos ... the luster or lack thereof is not visible.

What I would do with this coin in hand is hold it up to a favorable light and closely examine the high points of the design ... looking for evidence of breaks in the luster.

First place I would check on this lovely example is the obverse hair below the Liberty crown ...

Look directly below the letter "B" in your fine detailed photo ... see that flat spot? Notice as well that the flat spot continues downward ... angles a bit to the left?

The answer to MS or not depends on what you can tell us about the original mint luster on those flat spots ... that is the high point of the obverse design and the very first areas subject to wear.

Soooo ...

Overall I evaluate this as a moderate strike coin with clean fields and minimal bag hits.

AU58 if my suspicion of wear in the hair is correct ..

MS64 otherwise.


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I agree with MS based on these photos but would like to see close ups of the reverse corn cobs and stalk leaves.


No disrespect intended southsav ... but let's be careful to separate technical grade from strike quality.

Technical grade is 'state of preservation' ... and there are tons of high MS grade coins out there with mushy weak strikes ... the Buffalo nickel series is filled with them.

Attention to strike quality is what defines connoisseurs and knowledgeable collectors ... this lovely coin .. as I suggested above ... has a moderate strike ... regardless of it's technical grade.

David

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12/20/2011 9:25 pm
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 Posted 12/21/2011  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS 62 overall
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Thank you for all the replies. I'll take a look at it a little closer regarding the luster and post my observations.
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Here are some additional photos that may help. It appears to have luster across the surface, but I am a newbie when it comes to grading and what to look for.



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