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Rest in Peace
United States
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The term comes from when collectors kept their collections in wooden cabinets with slide-out trays, typically lined with felt. Aside: see also cabinet friction. When fellow collectors visited, they could be shown coins in a nice display. Black cabinets were not ebony wood, but instead referred to unacceptable coins like counterfeits, copies, or otherwise illegal issues. The "black" means "evil", and such coins would only be seen by a very close friend. The ANA has a black cabinet. I would think all the tpgs do. If you have a Henning nickel, you have a black cabinet. What's in yours? |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I have come across a few dodgy coins thanks to ebay. I have used these to sight in my .243 Verry satisfying when you slam a bullet through one of these suckers  |
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Mine's more a "black bag" than a black cabinet. All the assorted fakes go in it, from a fake 8 reales with an edge that looks like it was applied with a can opener, to a couple of Reader's Digest replicas my grandma gave me, to the latest addition: a little "Greek silver coin" I've had for years and only just confirmed to be a fake. I've sometimes considered carding up the fakes as if they were genuine coins and filling a "bait album" or two with these bogus coins, then leaving it sitting in a prominent position in the hope that an opportunistic thief might spot it and steal it, instead of looking harder for the real valuables. But I'm not that organized - and I'd worry that my heirs and successors might be equally duped by it. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
Australia
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I have a black, replica, copy, almost I cant believe its not real coin flip page. 20 x 2x2 holders full of highly magnetic, high rimmed, steel coins and other utter, utter, utter rubbish. Thalers, Morgans, Crowns, even coins worthless to numis copied. Silly counterfeiters. I think the answer is to evoke and peruse any international counterfeit currency act on them. See how they like to get fined hundreds of thousands, per coin. If they dont. And, I'm personally just moving from one market/hobby/passion to another. it will kill numismatics, just like fakes have killed some gemstone markets. Because buyers get scared they cant get a real one. Tanzanite is a prime example. Not slow down, kill dead in its tracks, gone bye byes, for a few dollars profit. They are the scum of the earth in my opinion
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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They used to hang people for coining/Counterfitting, Castration was another thing used to try and stop people skimping on the silver content of coins minted. Bring it back in I recon  |
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Australia
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Hi Trout1105. Absolutely, we have some of the most serious laws and penalty's re: fake currency in the world. And, they never ever get enacted or even get to court it seems. The 1937/8 crown as an example is according to RAM, still legal issue tender in this country> the only coin that isn't legal tender any more here is the Holey Dollar and Dump. So there is no reason they could not be taken to court in this country at the very, very least and made to pay more than they would ever make pressing fakes. "Press charges" for the "die" in the wool criminals so to speek
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I dunno if I want to spend my crowns and get 50cents for them  I'm sure If one of our weak chinned pollies got stung with a fake they would start renacting some of our coining laws |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This thread sounds like a set up for those with "illegal" coins for Big Brother to come busting down your door on Christmas Eve.
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New Member
Australia
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My biggest sting was on ebay and someone offering me a second seller thing. "Hey, I've got 2 of these really rare silver coins you just missed, blah blah, do you want the other one cheap. Inc postage.. ? you bet.. It arrived and my first taste of being ripped off hard with a coin. as a coin collector its pretty gut wrenching. Not so much being ripped off, but being wrong. No image to compare, no recourse with ebay. I guess I can always scan a few 100 yuan and sell them for $12 to undercut the market, and get back at them that way/ fair is fair.. but the impact isn't as great. and I dont have that much ink and my printer would go pfrrrt.. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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We don't have a big brother up here. We have a big readheaded sister instead |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Don't dwell on it philski, I recon most of us have been dudded a one stage.
It's just a learning curve and once you know what to look out for you should be right.
As long as you haven't forked out thousands for a 10 cent fake.
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Australia
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Your very right. I'm only really saying it so others don't get caught. I quite like my fakes now because I get to see and feel what a modern fake looks like. That underweight gun metal grey. If anyone is new to a specific coin or mintage or year or set. Please read all you can about it first. Get a real coin and know it, Look at it up close and really study it. its weight, its size, its characteristics. If you know someone that has one, borrow it and sleep with it, goodness me, love the thing! its important... We also have amazing internet that can transport any of us to any mint "just about" and know in seconds what we are looking at. and buy from dealers you can trust, and if need be trace. But even after all that, I guess we do get caught sometimes. and I wont dwell on it. I even got a giggle out of it..
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I like red-heads.  The few "fake" coins that I had seen were not magnetic (not sure what the metal was), but the color was still off a skosh, and the details. Edited by oih82w8
12/23/2011 09:08 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Castration was another thing used to try and stop people skimping on the silver content of coins minted. I'm not aware that castration was used but amputation of hands was done. Quote:
Bring it back in I recon If they do I wouldn't want to work at the mint considering that all of the "silver" coins no longer have ANY silver.  Quote:
I like red-heads. Me too! And I do have a black cabinet of contemporary counterfeits. Edited by Conder101
12/23/2011 11:14 am
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Rest in Peace
 United States
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 , Philski! Quote:
even coins worthless to numis copied. Silly counterfeiters Not necessarily. A beginning counterfooter will practice on stuff not likely to attract attention. Screw up on a $1000 fake, and you may get caught before you can perfect your "trade". |
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