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Need Help Iding The Mint And Type Of Marcus Aurelius Bronze

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Hi everyone, I just picked up this Marcus Aurelius bronze a few days ago. But I am not quite certain as to the mint of this coin. Any help would be appreciated! Also, what kind of value would you assign to this coin? (Sorry about the mediocre scans). Thanks!



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Not able to give you a RIC number because I can't make out the reverse very well. The coin is a dupondius, so I would think it's from the Rome mint.
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echizento- Thanks for the info! Yes, I forgot to mention that it is a dupondius. So all coins of this denomination were from the Rome mint? Honestly, I am more concerned with mint and value than exact RIC number. But any of this info would be greatly appreciated!
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Hey everyone, I may have an update. I believe that my coin may be RIC 874ADD. ( http://wildwinds.com/coins/ric/marc..._0874ADD.jpg ) What do you guys think? Also, might anyone know of the approximate value of my coin? Thanks!
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The legend on the obverse doesn't match with RIC 0874. Its hard to make out, but it would appear that Minerva is standing left, holding Victory, but I can't seem to locate a dupondius like this. I'm still looking.
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jwharper- Thanks! I too am a bit stumped. So I really appreciate the effort!
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It may be that the reverse is so worn, but if you look at the figure it doesn't appear to be wearing a long gown as you can definitely see both legs. Not sure which reverse this is.
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I see the reverse as Roma (or Mars as the figure was seen by Cohen) which was issued with reverse legend IMP VI COS III and IMP VII COS III according to the British Museum Catalog (BMCRE 1475 or 1487; Cohen 256 or 343) so you will never know which without the left side reverse legend. The figure faces left and holds a small figure of victory in the outstretched hand. I don't own RIC III so can't look it up.
Compare:
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=116938
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=199855
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dougsmit- I think that you may be right about this. Great!Thanks for the help! So any guesses as to the value of my coin? I paid $72 from a very reputable dealer. Do you think that I did OK? (and keeping in mind that my scans do not do justice to the overall attractiveness of this coin).
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It would appear then that this is RIC III 1118, Æ Dupondius (26mm, 11.63 g, 6h). Rome mint. Struck AD 173-174. Radiate and cuirassed bust right / Roma standing left, holding victory and spear.

As far as value, IMHO I think you overpaid somewhat. The problem is that the reverse is worn and the legend is gone. This reduces the value substantially as it is next to impossible to 100% attribute the coin. I would say perhaps $45 would have been more correct. Take a look at this link at a like coin which sold for $62, but with a fully attributable reverse: http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=455422

Sorry, but that's just my opinion. And you know the old saying about opinions. Everyone has one just like certain body parts.
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jwharper- Thanks for hte input and the link. Ah, no worries about breaking the news to me. Ya'win some and ya'lose some. I'm happy with the coin even if I did over pay a bit.
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I increasingly find that JW and I agree on coin values more often than not. If CNG sold the coin he linked for $62 in 2010, then this one would struggle to be worth $45. I really discriminate against coins than can not be identified fully so I'd cut jw's estimate in half but I realize that not everyone cares about the same details I do so another might pay more.
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