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Need Help To Identify Some Coins From The Ottoman Empire

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 Posted 12/29/2011  2:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mojito to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So these are the coins I shot:
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Will be happy to find out any kind of information about them. Thank you in advance!

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 Posted 06/22/2014  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mojito to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 06/22/2014  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll ask to have your thread moved to the id forum where it will get more views and maybe answer your questions.


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 Posted 06/22/2014  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome... back! Sorry this post was ignored the first time; I must have missed it.

First pic: both coins are from Constantinople mint, so you'll find them listed under "Turkey". The one on the left is dated 1223//30, the one on the right is I think dated 1223//27, though the hole has punched through part of the regnal date. Many Turkish coins have the same design and the denominations are only distinguished by size; you haven't given any indication of size, so I'm really just guessing at the denominations: I think the one on the right is a 3 kurush, and the one on the right a 10 para.

Second pic: This is an imitation of a Constantinople-mint gold coin dated 1223//21. The design is too coarse and the rim too broad for it to be genuine. It might, nevertheless, be made out of genuine gold (though somewhat debased; the genuine coins are not high purity either). Compare your coin with the genuine one on the NGC database.
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 Posted 06/23/2014  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mojito to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm really thankfull for the detailed information!

Here are the measurements I forgot to put in my post :

The bigger coin on the first pic has a diameter of 36mm, it's about 1 mm thick and weights about 11,22 g (which is more than the coin on the link).
The smaller coin has a diameter of 21mm, it's less than a milimeter thick and weights 1,35 g (also more than the one on the link)
I currently can not acces the golden one, buts since the scanner has made the coins around 2,6 times bigger than they actually are we can assume it's diameter to be around 25mm. As far as I remember it was a little bit thinner than the big silver one and it was quite heavy for it's size.
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 Posted 06/24/2014  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Then the denominations are doubled; the larger coin is a 6 kurush, the smaller one a 20 para.
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 Posted 06/24/2014  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kommodore_ss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "gold" one is definitely fake("a belly dancer belt money"), I can see many of this kind here in Romania, so I guess in Turkey they are everywhere. Chances of being real gold are really small
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As Sap said it is golden, but it's deffinitely not genuine. I'll measure it when I find it and i'll post the results.

As far as I know ottoman coins were widely used as decoration by the enslaved balcanic people, as kommodore_ss said. That's why all the coins have holes in them.
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Not just in the Balkans, but also in Turkey itself and pretty much everywhere in the Ottoman world. Many of the "jewellery imitation Ottoman" coins you can find posted here on the forum have designs based on Algerian or Egyptian coins. But yes, for this reason many Ottoman coins have had holes punched in them, for this reason.
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