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Is There A 1984-D Olympic Dollar DD?

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I just checked the Coneca master list on Variety Vista and I do not see one?



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Those peripheral devices are incuse, correct? If so, then it is just Machine Doubling and not a doubled die.

To explain, a doubled die is created when a die(negative design) is impressed on a hub(positive design) for the second time and the second hubbing is not perfectly aligned with the first. Prior to the late 1990s for US coins, dies were typically hubbed, annealed(heat treated to soften), and then hubbed a second time- hence the term "hub doubling". Current coin dies are produced with a "single squeeze" process so most doubled die types are no longer possible.

On a die that strikes incuse details on a coin, those portions of the die are positive just like a hub. Because of that fact, Machine Doubling on incuse details will have a similar appearance to a coin with hub doubling(doubled die).
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biokemist6, are you willing to bet on your opinion? Lets keep it civil, I will give you $1000.00 USD if this coin is Machine Doubling. You must first agree to give me the same if this is a doubled die? I am good for it...are you?
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From what I remember, MD on incuse devices can throw one for a loop.
I'm not confirming/denying that's what this is...but I'm sure an expert will chime in...soon.
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biokemist6, are you willing to bet on your opinion?

My statement is FACT, not OPINION. I won't take your bet since I have no desire to make you look silly but I doubt you would pay up anyway since most people who have the audacity to make a legitimate $1000 bet would perform their due diligence and gather a little supporting documentation first...


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What many folks don't know is that Strike Doubling that affects incuse designs results in split serifs and separation of elements that closely mimics true hub doubling. Due to the optical illusion of incuse designs appearing raised in photographs it is virtually impossible to tell the difference between this type of Strike Doubling and hub doubling when viewing images alone.

http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis...icleId=17345
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