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After the Rochelle Salt experiment, I have many coins to attribute. But I wanted to try to do as much as I could with the information provided by the community in the last few weeks, older posts and a new book on Ancient Coin Collecting by Sayles. I was having a hard time understanding mint marks, busts, etc. The book has really helped me to use Wildwinds more effective. With all that said I have three coins that I'm posting. The first two I think I have attributed, need your professional help to make sure I'm correct. The third is the 'griffin' coin that jessvc1 pointed out. I tried till my eyes fell out to find that reverse and failed. So I'm sure that will be an easy one for at least jessvc1 :)

I believe the first is a Constans. Ric VIII 195, Siscia mint, 1.62 gr., 17mm. The kicker was the palm branch coming up between the two 'Victories'. Couldn't find that in the other reverses similar to this one. Hope I'm right.



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The second I believe is Valentinian I. 18mm, 2.03 gr. RIC IX 14(a), Siscia mint, but I believe this is a variant that is different than shown in RIC. The bust is the same in the variant, but the 'F' doesn't quite line up with the captive. They said there were many variants on letters, so I'm hoping I'm close.

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And of course the 'Griffin' reverse. Don't have a clue here.

As always, thank you for taking the time to help this newbie. I'll be standing on my own in, oh say, a couple of years. Regards.
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You did very well on the second coin there is an are in the right field so it is one of the types of RIC 14a, there should be another letter over the are but I can't make it out. I believe the last coin is Gallienus.
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I'll start searching Gallienus. Thanks ecinzento. The first coin is correct too?
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I just checked the first coin and it looks good to me. I have a couple similar coins to that one.

Here is one I just posted recently.

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Yep. That's the one. Awesome! I feel like I'm starting to get the hang of this attribution stuff. Thank's Gil-gald.
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Yes you were correct on the first coin.
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In wildwoods I located a few griffin reverses attributed to Gallienus,(RIC V 164-66), but they all are looking left, while this one is looking right. BTW the measurements on this coin is 1.97 grs. and 17.5mm.
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For the Gallienus coin. There just isn't enough detail to make a for sure attribution. Although, based on the gryphon walking right, it's one of two possibilities.

RIC V-1 Rome 165 (S)
RIC V-1 Rome 166 (S)

(S) meaning sole reign.

Hope this helps.
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I do realize that the reference at WildWinds and Dirty Old Coins has the gryphon walking left. I'm going to consult the RIC volumes here soon and see what I can come up with. I used Helvetica's Excel sheets to get the attribution(s).
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oxos: You're getting the hang of it. I think you're doing just fine. BTW, I've seen the griffin coin for sale in the past, but I don't have one. Is the obverse above it the obverse of the griffin coin? I'm not sure that is Gallienus.
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Thanks JW. I'm not sure what you mean by the obverse being above it? The reverse is 180 degrees out from the obverse. I had the same thought after looking at all the active and sold coins on the Forvm and Wildwilds. Your looking at everything I am with the photos. Unfortunately it isn't in very good shape.
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The bottom two images go together?
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Yes the same coin. Obverse first. Reverse with griffin below.
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That may be Gallienus, but I'm not certain of it just yet. It's past midnight here so I'm off to bed. I'll take another look in the morning.
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Only 9 here but I'm up early so I'm heading that way too! Thanks guys.
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Here is a walking right gryphon Gallienus coin here.

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This particular one is RIC 166.
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