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Three New Large Imperial Roman Coins!

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It seems like I order a lot of coins in threes, this one is no exception. These coins were late in arriving here as well, compared to how long it takes other coins from the same seller to arrive. I ordered these coins on Christmas day. So, these are also the last of my Christmas coins.


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Faustina I

This is the first woman coin I own now. Also, it's a whopping 10.6 gm. 26mm. I paid $5 for this coin. Originally it was $20 and I watched it and as the price dropped. When it was $5, I grabbed it.

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Galerius

I believe this one to be a Galerius. Although, I am somewhat confused by these coins even after reading articles about them. This coin weighs 5.5gm, is 25.5 mm. I paid $10 for this after watching it drop from $15.


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Galerius

I believe this one is also Galerius. This coin weighs 6.1gm, is 24mm. I paid $9.50 for it, after dropping from $15.


Later on I'm going to give them a light scrub and soak in distilled water. I have much better success doing it that way and with a lot of patience. I'm going to be ordering some Ren wax later on because the small container of wax I received from JW came open when I didn't realize it and it dried up. Bummer...

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I believe this one to be a Galerius. Although, I am somewhat confused by these coins even after reading articles about them


I had the same problems Gil-galad:

https://goccf.com/t/100028

Made me to do a bit of interesting research but only for GENIO POPVLI ROMANI type coins. Maybe the above is of use but I don't know 100%, maybe its just a starting point!
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 Posted 01/10/2012  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coins Gil-galad.

I am pretty sure the third coin is actually Maximinus II minted at Heraclea. I am no expert and could be wrong. (Just don't tell my wife)

Cheers,

-Kurt

EDIT: Taking a second look, I agree with the sellers attribution, Galerius

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01/10/2012 10:23 pm
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nice coins have fun attributing them. You will always remember coins like these after you attribute them
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I'm about to try and attribute the coins right now. The seller has attributed the second coin as a Maximinus Daza Follis. The third one as Galerius. This guy is often wrong in identifying many coins.
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I believe the second coin is a Galerius.

IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANUS PF AVG

This obverse legend signifies Galerius as Augustus.

The reverse legend is very difficult to make out. I believe it's

GENIO AVGVSTI CMH

In exergue;

SMNA

or SMN delta.

Either way, I believe it's;

RIC VI Nicomedia 54a/66a

bobbyhelmet: Your research in that thread is very impressive. Thanks a lot!



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The third coin is also Galerius, I believe.

The same obverse legend, the end of the legend is worn so it's hard to tell.

IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANUS PF AVG

GENIO IMP-E-RATORIS reverse.

Crescent in right field.

HTB in exergue.

RIC VI Heraclea 53a

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EDIT: Taking a second look, I agree with the sellers attribution, Galerius


I'm pretty sure the seller is wrong again on one coin. lol

Of course, I could be wrong too. But I really don't think so this time.
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I'd appreciate it if someone could check my attributions.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  01:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree coin #3 is definitely correct
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I agree with your attribution of coin #2


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IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANUS PF AVG - Galerius as Augustus
GENIO AVGVSTI CMH
SMNA or SMN delta
RIC VI Nicomedia 54a/66a


More info on the CMH monogram here:

https://goccf.com/t/102563
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I also agree with your attribution of #3


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IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANUS PF AVG - Galerius as Augustus
GENIO IMP-E-RATORIS reverse
Crescent in right field
HTB in exergue
RIC VI Heraclea 53a


Its possible is Maximinus II but it would have to have a star in left field on the reverse, I can maybe see something there but cleaning may confirm if its dirt or detail. End of visible legend looks like 'IAN' rather than 'INV' to me so I'd say Galerius too. Galerius issued these both with and without the star in LF.

As you pick up the knowledge you'll be amazed just how many coins are mis-attributed by sellers, shocking, but also good for bargains sometimes
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mis-attributed by sellers, shocking, but also good for bargains sometimes


Ain't that the truth! I'm always on the look out for mis-attributed coins.
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Ain't that the truth! I'm always on the look out for mis-attributed coins


I also look for mis-spellings, again you'd be amazed how many can be found and how 'under the radar' many of them are
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Thanks a lot for all the help on the attributions. Now it is time to finish this up. I've been having some problems with the Faustina I coin because the coin does not have many details.

I believe it to be;

Faustina I

RIC 1171

DIVA FAV-STINA

SC on reverse.

Ceres standing left holding torch and corn ears.

There is a scratch on the coin so I believe this to be an As. The weight is 10.7gm. I'm using the seller's measurement since I am waiting on my digital caliper. 26mm.

I consulted RIC Volume III but I didn't have much luck making an attribution that way. None of them list the obverse legend break DIVAFAV-STINA as such. Even though one of the photographic plates shows a very similar obverse portrait.

I would appreciate some help on this coin.
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It could also be;

RIC 1177
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