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Aussie Token | Taylor & Challen Medal

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Aussie token, any ideas
I have included a pic of a dime and a Aussie 20 cent for size and it weighs 5.7g, I have no idea of what alloy it is made of either.
I got this with lot of silver Aus coins
oops forgot piks again

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I believe Taylor & Challen was the name of a company based around Birmingham, England whose engineers made the machinery for minting coins worldwide. I am surmising that there was some type of fair in Australia in 1964 and this medallion or token was struck to commemorate the minting machine.

I am pretty sure it is made of copper.

Maybe someone with some expertise in this area can weigh in on the subject.

Regards,

-Kurt
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I've just had another look at this and it is the same size and thickness as the Aussie 2 dollar coin.
I wonder if this was a sales thing to the Ausiie government prior to the release of decimal coinage and the demise of the 1 and 2 dollar notes a few years later.
The weight is not the same the 2 dollar is 6.6g but they are the same basic colour


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Leslie J. Carlisle: "AUSTRALIAN HISTORICAL MEDALS" n. 1964/1


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Cheers TOH I though it was just junk.
Looks like this little baby gets a 2x2 after all.
I still recon its a predecessor to the $2 coin
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I still recon its a predecessor to the $2 coin

I can certainly attest that, once the $2 coin was launched in 1988, these things suddenly began appearing in circulation. Not seen so much these days, because they're now considered to be worth more than $2. Not too much more, mind you; one million is a huge mintage for a medal. I paid $6 for a nice Unc one from a coin club auction; it lists at $5 in "VF to EF" in Carlisle's price guide supplement.

T&C deliberately made these advertising medals out of brass, because Australia had no brass-coloured coins nor any plans to issue any. It's hardly their fault if Australia issued an actual coin much the same size a generation later.

I mentioned them in this thread as a good example of Australian "circulating non-legal tender".
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Great reply Sap, I had sqizz.
The medallion/dodgy $2 coin I have is silver/Gilted and not brass, Hence the dark toning under the gilt.
This has obviously not been "looked after" very well.
Where did the brass one's come from?
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I found one of these yesterday in a bulk lot of foreign coins.
Brass, 20.42mm diameter and 5.73 grams.

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If this was intended as an example of a top minted product I would give it about 7 out of 10. Nowhere near as much detail on the kangaroo as most pennies and halfpennies.

There are a few listed on ebay at $20 Buy it Now and a "collectibles" dealer has one on his web sales site at $49!
I would say about $6 is reasonable but, maybe, as much as $10 for a really nice one.

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aha! that's a medallion, market price around 2-6 AUD, but nice to have it, only they've got a thin market, by the way, I don't think we have token after 1910 :)
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I got about a half dozen of these way back at the British International Exposition in Sydney, in 1964.

That gives my age away a bit!

They are about the same diameter and thickness as an Australian $2 coin. They are composed of brass, not aluminium bronze. The fact that they are about the same size as a $2 coin is purely coincidental. The $2 coin was not even mooted then, and was not issued until 24 years after the Exposition of 1964.

Taylor & Challen knew the Royal Australian Mint was re organising to introduce decimal currency planned for February 1966. They set up a coining press at the Exposition in 1964, and was handing out these brass tokens for free, to help market their services and products.

Although these tokens are becoming a little scarce to find these days, they are in fact, fairly common.
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I have one of these also, passed down by grandparents. All I was told that there was a minting press at the Royal Easter Show Sydney and that the mintage was roughly 1 million and can sell from anywhere from $5-$20.
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