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Here is another of my recent purchases I am having trouble attributing. The seller identified it as an AE 24 coin from PISIDIA, ANTIOCHIA SNG France 1259; however, the reverse legend is different from that reference only slightly in that the "CH" are at the top of the coin rather then the right side. Any help would be appreciated.   |
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Nothing to say--other than nice patina and details!  I always see something new here, which makes ancients fascinating. Is the dimple on the portrait corrosion or something from production or use? |
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Is the dimple on the portrait corrosion or something from production or use? I believe it has something to do with the production. Many of the provincial coins have this dimple. I have never seen any definitive reason for this. |
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I wanted to bring this one back to the top hoping someone will help with this coin's attribution. I'm stuck with SNG France 1259, but this does not fit neatly.
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I don't own this reference so can be of no help. While that looks like a centration dimple there is none on the reverse (unusual) and coins I have like this of other rulers do not have dimples so I would not expect one on a Philip. Damage? Letter placement often does not affect the catalog number of a coin as long as the letters match. In this case, this mint played pretty loose with spelling so I would not bet the catalogs I don't own might not even require a spelling match. That is one reason I don't approve of assigning catalog numbers from third party sources. Finding something on Wildwinds does not tell you what the original catalog considered significant in assigning that number. Some consider die identity while others lump together things I'd call different types. To get an accurate number, see the catalog itself. The coin below is from the same city and has the same type but the ruler is different. This mint was not very neat or consistent in spellings. Who is on this coin? Note on the reverse the C is on the left while the H is on the right.  Edited by dougsmit
01/17/2012 8:42 pm
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Found a reference to a coin identical to yours listed as:
SNG France 3, 1258; Kryz. IX, 26 - 6.27 gr
No pictures though.
The 1259 does indeed split the 'C' to the left and the 'H' to the right, it also has an additional 'O' at the end of the legend.
Will let you know if I find anything else.
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Found a reference to a coin identical to yours listed as: Thanks bobbyhelmet. The people on this forum are great and very helpful. Kinda like best friends, if you know what I mean. |
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Wow - that was a hard one to find, but I got it   http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=203758"PISIDIA, Antiochia. Philip I. AD 244-249. Æ (24mm, 6.09 g, 6h). Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right / Vexillum between two signa; S are in exergue. Krzyzanowska IX/26; SNG France 1258"It may be the tiredness off my eyes but this coin could even be from the same die as yours JW! Quote:
The people on this forum are great and very helpful. Kinda like best friends, if you know what I mean. I enjoy seeing other peoples coins as much as my own sometimes, I def enjoy the hunt on the problem ones  |
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That's it. Wow! I think you are right. It's an exact match. How in the world did you find this? I take it that is a current auction and the bidding starting at $60 for their coin. I only paid 20% of that including shipping. Of course, mine has an indent on the obverse that probably shouldn't be there like the CNG coin. Thanks bobbyhelmet. Great investigative work!
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Now that is cool! I have looked for die matches to my coins--in vain of course!  So, to run across an exact match randomly, that's amazing!  I cobbled together a side-by-side, for future reference. JW, you did well on that purchase--once again!  |
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you did well on that purchase You know, when I decided to buy this coin, it was solely because of the reverse which appealed to me and of course the price was right. Thanks for the compliment DVC. Actually the compliment should go to bobbyhelmet for the great investigative work. And thanks for putting the images together. I think I'll keep them like that for my catalog. |
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That is a nice coin and we see clear evidence that the pit is damage not a centration mark. However you will be able to fool many people who will overlook the pit thinking it is one. It is always nice to find die matches.
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How in the world did you find this? It took an awful lot of Googling but as with most coins, eventually you will find the one your looking for. I wasn't sure at first but DVCs picture seems to confirm they are from the same die, an added bonus! I was researching this similar themed one of mine at the time so it helped with that.  You got a nice coin at a nice price JW |
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