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How Do You Tell If A Coin Is Cleaned?

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 Posted 01/18/2012  9:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add smaier to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How do you tell if a coin is cleaned? Does anyone have side by side pictures to compare cleaned and original coins? Are cleaned coins worth anything? I have a few old Morgan dollars and I'm having a hard time telling if they are cleaned or not
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 Posted 01/18/2012  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsmith23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well you can usually tell by tiny hairline scratches across the whole coin, but the good news about morgans, cleaned or not, are worth silver value.
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 Posted 01/18/2012  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coins are 'cleaned' in many ways. Sometimes its an obvious, harsh cleaning which will result in circular scratches and hairlines on the coins surface. Some coins were cleaned years ago and have since regained some form of toning that may somewhat cover up the cleaning.

Generally with Morgans you can tell if they've been cleaned or not by looking at their luster but this takes experience as some dates and or mints lacked luster in the first place. An easy way to tell is if you find a Morgan with considerable wear, yet the coin is 'shiny.' Coins like that don't look natural.

Morgans can also be 'dipped' in a solution that removes a microscopic layer of metal, therefore 'cleaning' the coin. If the coin is dipped wrong or too many times it will lose its luster. However, some coins can be expertly dipped and will therefore even fool third party graders like PCGS and NGC who will slab it and not note the cleaning since even they can't tell if it was dipped or not.

Do a search on ebay and look at different Morgans. I think if the photos are decent you will find some coins that are obviously cleaned and you can compare them to other Morgans that look original and natural. The best way to gain experience in looking for cleaned coins is by seeing lots of them in-hand.

Sorry for the long reply, but I hope it helps!
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 Posted 01/19/2012  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ContraJame to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been pondering how to tackle this topic before I get any books in hand as well. I'm thinking I may do an ebay search such as "Cleaned Peace dollar NGC OR ANACS". That should give you examples of coins slabbed by the professionals and noted as being cleaned.
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 Posted 01/19/2012  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some of the cleaned silver I have seen is too "white" instead of "silver" in color. As mentioned earlier, the luster is diminished or is gone entirely. The brush marks can be very hard to see. I read somewhere that the coin should be rotated and there should be a cartwheel style luster present on the higher end silver coins. I have seen some copper coins that have been pegged as "altered surfaces", "recolored", etc... which looked very pleasing to me. It just takes practice.

There are quite a few ebay titles with "net" or "details" that will highlight some coins with "issues" such as cleaned.
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01/19/2012 10:46 am
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 Posted 01/19/2012  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although many people claim they can tell if a coin is cleaned, this is not always that easy. Many coins are cleaned in different ways and different amounts. For those dipped in Acetone or similar, hardly any cleaning is apparent. Usually not at all. Some cleanings are done harshly and the use of a brush is noticed by hairline scrathes all over the coins. Possibly one of the easiest ways to tell if a coin has been cleaned is if it is an older coin with noticable wear and no dirt of any kind in the letters and numbers, more than likely cleaned. By that I mean no dirt inside numbers like a 6 or 9 or letters like e, a, etc. It is usually the obvious cleanings that are noticable but many clean coins that are so new it is difficult to really tell.
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