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1835 Doubled Die Matron Large Cent

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Here's to large cents!

Please grade. I think that she is large 8 and stars?

And of course there is a doubled obverse! Think she's a keeper!?

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Tough call on this one for me, F15 or VF20 so close I'm leaning towards a solid F-15.

Is the head really doubled? Or could it have been possibly re-cut? It looks more like the mint may have re-engraved the die to try and strengthen the details on the face, as I see no other doubling on the obverse except for the face profile.

Here is a tripled profile, may be the same as your, this one is in a PCGS AU55 holder sold through Heritage last year for almost $700.00

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Interesting variety, but I'm sure no expert on early coppers.
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 Posted 01/21/2012  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am thinking around F-15 details.
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 Posted 01/21/2012  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Westcoin, thanks!:) The coin was sold to me as double profile. It is me who assumed that the cause would be a doubled die. Now that you mention it I think I remember reading something about re-cut dies? I think that I see some tripling? To me the heritage coin and mine do bear similar resemblance. I am not sure.

All help and feedback is appreciated! So all of you large cent pros feel free to chime in! Thanks!
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DOuble3Eagle I appreciate your feedback. I am curious why you say details. I thought this was a trouble free coin except for the wear.?
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F-15 details
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As for the details - it looks like there might be a slight bit of corrosion on the reverse rim up around 9:30. The scattered green on the front could also be signs of potential corrosion.

That being said - great coin with really nice color. I think it'd still grab pretty close to problem-free money since the problems arent widespread.
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 Posted 01/22/2012  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that I found it on Heritage. It was kind of fun looking it up.

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...=20009#Photo

Here is a pic of the die cracks. I am pretty sure the cracks and the profile doubling match up.

I noticed that the lot description does not mention the "Head of 34" designation but the NCS holder does. Is this just differentiating it from the "Head of 1836"?

I need to get a large cents book! I am considering Newcomb. Any suggestions for references are welcome; hard copy or online. Thanks.


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I gave the details grade because I think there is some corrosion or verdigris above the date and in the fields in front of Liberty. Still a nice coin and as long as you are happy with it, it's a keeper.
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 Posted 01/24/2012  05:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm certainly no expert on early copper cents of Half Cents by any means, but I love to look at them, before I ever get into those series I'll need to spend some serious cash on reference books and time studying them! I love the history and the fact there are so many varieties (like VAMs), probably more likely due to the low cost and face value of them when there weren't a lot of collectors around in the late 1800-1900 era.

Sheldon and Newcomb are both the bibles, so I'd start with them, ask around and look into the Early American Copper collectors club (EAC).
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