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New Member
United States
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Im takeing a break this weekend in Muskogee Oklahoma so I parked my truck at the pilot and walked over to the some of the antique fea market stores they had. I picked up a 1980 (payed 50 cents) and a 1981 (25 cents) RedBook that they had in the piles of books. They had lots of neat old stuff in there too. Didnt see any coins or paper money in the displays and the woman said that its been a while since a coin dealer had setup in there. Anyways on the way to check out and pay I see this note laying on the counter. It was hanging out from underneath a drinking glass that had junk in it. I smiled and said, "whats the deal with this?" She said, "Oh thats fake you can just have it." I said thanks and threw it in the bag. I brought it back to the truck and started looking at it. Its signed and bleed through the back. The paper feels like a rice paper and it has red hairs woven into it. Its really nice looking note and its on thin paper too. I dont know if it really is fake. So I thought I would post it up and let all to see. It has 2 small pinholes too. It crinkles when you wave it around in your hand. If its real then I'm an idiot for throwing in the bag like I did because I added a bend to it. What is the dead giveaways on a Fake Note like this. Notes like this make me scared to buy them and collect them. I'm glad it was free. Is this a fantasy note? Cant find any information or a picture of this one on the web. (I used a plastic holder BEHIND the bill to press it firmly against the scanner and I have not adjusted the colors.)  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
I vote genuine, and exceptional quality if it's that white.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
891 Posts |
I would have this note checked out. From what I have read online this is a rare note because of the centreville stamp on it. That's if it is real.
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New Member
 United States
20 Posts |
Thanks guys, I figured it was a rare note since I cant find a picture of the $10 dollar denomination of this bank. I've found a picture of a uncut sheet that skips the 10. I'm also haveing trouble just finding a signed note in another denomination from this series so I can compare the presidents signature. If this note is real what is the rarity on it and a possible value?
When I get back home I'm going to let my uncle and some other paper note collectors check it out. If they give me the go, Then ill probably take it to a shop and pay whatever it cost to use there membership to have it slabbed out and authenticated only because it was free.
A few things that got me wondering about it is, It smells like an old book, It has thick spots in the paper (like thick fibers when you hold it in the light), The way the paper is made it has small red hairs in it, it even has a few thick red hair fibers in it. Its like the paper is pressed together or something. I just dont know the process of makeing this stuff. Looking at the back of the note, it appears to have indentations were the design is printed. But they are very hard to see. And of course, it has been signed and it bleed through and the reverse is a little raised in some spots were it has been signed.
The only thing I can figure is, This note was found in a book that they had in there store, and because it was so nice they just assumed it was fake...(thats only if its real)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I am certainly not an obsolete note expert but if it is a fake, then it is a really good one. The colored fibers are good to see, that is typically a method of counterfeit prevention. The paper is very bright and the ink appears to be contemporary. Quote:
Looking at the back of the note, it appears to have indentations were the design is printed. That is a sign of intaglio printing which is frequently used for printing bank notes. |
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New Member
United States
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Good news. I've had the chance to show the note off and everyone said its a go. I even had someone try to buy it. But its not for sale. I got the chance to see some really good books on obsolete currency. I've found this note listed for sale by Hugh Shull in his 2004 blue catalogue. He has it attributed as such.
Pg 28 UNL B7 10. 18-- Minerva seated ctr. Bare breast Maid w/Eagle Lt Maid w/Anchor Shield Rt. CU $170
Not really sure what B7 is and I checked the catalog pretty extensively. His note was probably not signed and stamped centreville also because he didnt have the date listed. Anyone know what the B7 is?
Also got to see a book by Q David Bowers called Obsolete Paper Money 1782-1866. And on page 206 there is a picture of some of the artwork that also appears on my note. He has the naked lady with the eagle attributed as such. Hebe, cup bearer to the gods, holding a goblet of wine for an eagle. Eng George W. Hatch 1834.
I got a litte bit educated on the engravers now and have found the next note that I am now going to be searching for and will probably have to come out of pocket on it when I see it so I'm not telling what it is. That book (by Bowers) was awsome. Anyways, I've done as much research as I'm able to on my end with some help from friends. Anyone know what the value of my note is? I plan on keeping it so its not for sale. I've had to much fun with it and its going with my new theme of obsolete notes that I'm collecting. Naked Ladies.....I dont know when ill get it slabbed. Everyone just kind of said, well its real and it doesn't matter if you slab it or not. Its a nice note. Thnx for the help!
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
I wouldn't waste money on slobbing, just get a nice mylar holder.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2295 Posts |
Pretty awesome find and even better price!  It pays to ask, doesn't it?  |
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