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I posted this coin a few days ago but have had no luck so far - It has cleaned up a bit and I've taken a better picture of it. What I initially thought was maybe a Celtic horse now looks like a bull head and neck with horns looking slightly away from the viewer.

Gil-galad suggested Leo I (Verina standing holding transverse sceptre) for the other side which was a possibility but not when taken with the bull on the other side.

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I think the bull is stylistic enough to be recognised so was hoping someone may be able to help. As far as what I believe to be the reverse goes I have no real suggestions, maybe I see Delta on the rhs of the coin, maybe its a monogram
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Forgot to add - 12mm 1.97 grams.
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 Posted 01/24/2012  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I can't read the reverse on your coin but here is a similar obverse.
http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/monet...Product=5804

also here is another.
http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/aegea...Product=6343

I'll keep looking.
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Dang that was quick Doucet!

The first coin is very similar indeed - I'll see if I can match the reverse.
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I think the obv matches this coin pretty close but cant make out the reverse.
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Now that the coin is a bit cleaner after a soak, it doesn't look like a late Roman to me now. And a closer photo.
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I think the reverse looks like a monogram within wreath so the coin type is probably in the area of the first example.
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Interesting coin, that looks very similar to the 1st example.
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Try rotating the reverse 90 degrees counterclockwise. I think I see the head of a horse which would then be in the upper left.
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Try rotating the reverse 90 degrees counterclockwise. I think I see the head of a horse which would then be in the upper left.
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Been looking but I cant see it

Found a couple of other pics of your first suggested coin too but still cant seem to match the reverse - they also all seem to have dotted boarders around the bulls head.
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I think we are definitely in the right area - just not got a 'bingo' yet.
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Getting a bit closer I think
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http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/ancie...roduct=22932

I looked at Pantikapaion coins yesterday but must have missed this one.
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Bingo!
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Thrace. Pantikapaion. 200-150 BC. Head of bull right / Π-A-N, Grain-ear and plow.
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Ok I got rid of the shadow so maybe the design will come out more.

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you already got it good job. now you have another coin type to add to your collection. Its an interesting coin.
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The correct orientation is the last one, it reads Π(left) A(top) N(bottom) and has a barely visible ear of grain above a basic plow.
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