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British Olympics Coin- Off Sides?

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 Posted 02/05/2012  11:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add satxwd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is a coin question and a sports question. A new British 50 Pence Olympics coin this summer- Offsides Explained. Can someone please post an image of this coin again and.... Explain offsides again. I'm watching the Man you vs Chel match now and could really use the help. Thanks blokes.
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 Posted 02/05/2012  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here is the coin, don't ask me to explain the rule since I like American Football rather than Football\Soccer.

British-Olympics-Coin--Off-Sides?

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The offensive player can not be between the last deffensive player and the goal before the ball. Geez...and I'm American...
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In the moment of the pass the receiving offensive player cannot be beyond the last defensive one (between the defense and the goalie).

On the coin there's one defensive player (a square) and two offensive (triangles). If the pass is made to the left triangle the game will be stopped - it's offside. To the right triangle - it's good.

The important part is when the pass was initiated. The offensive player may receive the pass beyond the last line of defense, and the good ones often do.
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 Posted 02/05/2012  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The offensive player can not be between the last deffensive player and the goal before the ball. Geez...and I'm American...


I just happen to live in the UK but I am an American as well who spend to many years watching and playing American football.

All I know is when the coin design was announced some folks said the explantation was not 100% correct.

Here is a link with more details about the rule:
http://www.premiershipticketsonline...pence-piece/

The Offside Rule in England Football

It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.

A player is in an offside position if:

•he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent

A player is not in an offside position if:

•he is in his own half of the field of play
•he is level with the second last opponent
•he is level with the last two opponents

A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:

•interfering with play
•interfering with an opponent
•gaining an advantage by being in that position

There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:

•a goal kick
•a throw-in
•a corner kick

For any offside offence, the referee awards an indirect free kick to the opposing team to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred.

If the player is in front of all of the defenders, leaving only the goalkeeper back -- there are not enough players to play him onside. This position may have been forced by the defenders moving forward in what is called the offside trap.

If a defender has failed to move up the field with rest of his defence and played another player onside, it is a classic example of where the offside trap fails.

The offside rule exists to stop goal hanging, where a player stands next to the opposing teams goal keeper in the hope that someone can get the ball to him (probably using a long ball), so he can get it past the goal keeper.

In the rare event a goal keeper is out of the goal (e.g. last minute of F.A. Cup final on a corner kick) and can't get back in time -- but if the attacking team play the ball as they normally would, then it would be offside because the offside rule requires two defenders to be in front the attacker and the goal keeper usually counts as a defender.

If linesmen (assistant referees) call offside when it isn't, its not really their fault (unless the decision goes against you or your team), it's all to do with angles and line of sight. In the linesman's line of sight this line should be parallel with the goal line.

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So who knows if the coin explains the rule correctly or not.

I do think 29 different 50 pence coins are too much. One would have been okay since we have no idea if we will ever see a 2009, 2010, or 2011 Royal Shield 50 pence in circulation.

They also seem to be minting random amounts of the Olympic 50 pence coins:

http://www.royalmint.com/corporate/...g_coins.aspx

Like why 1,007,313 of Gymnastics and 500,000 of the Football or only 210,000 of the 2009 Kew Gardens?

Ken
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Actually the coin is correct. The coin explains offside, it does not explain the laws of the game at present.

A player is in an offside position if in the opposing half, and there is only one player between him and the line at the end. That doesn't mean he is committing an offence at all, it just means he's offside.

An offence is committed when A, B or C happen.

Kena, the mint will release 3 million of each coin. The thing is that they seem to be releasing them at different times, a bit here, a bit there.
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If he is not interfering with play, then he is onside, and flag stays down.

Hang on ........... I am going to ask the wife again :)
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 Posted 02/07/2012  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, if he's not interfering with play he's still offside, but is not breaking the rules and therefore play continues.
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