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oxos Valued Member United States 422 Posts	Posted 02/08/2012 3:29 pm Been a while since I posted anything due to weather and other issues, but I wanted to share some questions with the forum about fourrÃ©es that JW and I talked about a couple of weeks ago. He suggested I post them when I was able. Few weeks back I saw JW's collection of the 12 Caeser's along with a gold collection of same.(very impressive!) Knowing I could not afford to come close to acquiring either silver or gold I thought about another route. I had purchased a fourrÃ©e from JW when I first got started collecting. The Tiberius tribute denarius. Because I have been collecting Biblicals, it made sense to get one (even if it was an ancient forgery). So my question is: Are there fourrÃ©es of all 12? I know the history of Nero, Galba, Otho, and Vitellius. All gone in a year, with Vespasian coming out on top. I know that a fourrÃ©e was found of Vitellius (Hendin). But what of Galba and Otho? I am including the four fourrÃ©es I now own, but want to know am I wasting my time trying to find the other eight? And if they exist, can I even afford them? As always, thanks for your responses. First fourrÃ©e: Augustus 27-14 AD 2.51 gm., 18mm RIC 334 AVGVSTVS DIVI F, bare head right. IMP. XII in ex. Bull butting right. Tiberius fourrÃ©e. Ludunum mint. 2.61 gm., 19mm TI CAESAR DIVIA VGFA VGVSTVS, laureate head right. PONTIF MAXIM - Livia seated right, holding spear and branch; ornamented chair legs. RIC 28? Vespasian fourrÃ©e. 79 AD Rome mint. 3.07 gm., 19mm RIC 1068, Hendin 1470. IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head right/ TR POT XCOS VIIII, draped Victory advancing left erecting trophy, Jewish captive weeping beneath. (another reason I got this coin was because of the Biblical motif.) Finally Domitian fourrÃ©e. 81-96 AD 2.06 gm., 19mm. Rome mint. IMP CAES DOMITA VGGERMP MTRPPVI, laureate head right. IMP XII COS XIII CENSPPP, Minerva standing left, holding thunderbolt and spear with shield. RIC 93. If you run across the other eight, and aren't in the market for that particular coin, please let me know where it might be found if that is possible? Thanks and regards to all. Edited by oxos 02/09/2012 12:27 am Report this Post to the Staff

DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/08/2012 5:05 pm It's interesting to see the underlying bronze; the Augustus fourrÃ©e is distinctive, even with lost plating. I imagine that if a Caligula fourrÃ©e exists, it would be out of my budget too. Report this Post to the Staff
oxos Valued Member United States 422 Posts	Posted 02/08/2012 7:27 pm I suspect there is a Caligula out there because of the length of his reign. But your right, it probably would be quite pricey. Thanks for the response. Report this Post to the Staff
dougsmit Pillar of the Community United States 1549 Posts	Posted 02/08/2012 10:43 pm All 12 exist but I do not own a Caligula or a Galba. Otho and Vitellius are not easy to find. Report this Post to the Staff
oxos Valued Member United States 422 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 12:25 am So you do have a Otho and Vitellius? Pray tell are we talking major money for those two? Report this Post to the Staff
giano Valued Member 279 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 03:04 am Hi I have a fourees of nero(but now I haven't pics of it),and after all I think the price was right not so high as a silver denarius,so I think you can complete this collection.... Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 1:34 pm Quote: I'm not sure of the forum rules about sales Not to be Capt. Obvious, but the rules are linked from every forum page. Report this Post to the Staff
VisigothKing Pillar of the Community United States 4778 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 3:07 pm I figure a fouree set won't be as expensive as an all denarii set, but probably as hard, if not harder to find certain ones. Report this Post to the Staff
oxos Valued Member United States 422 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 3:13 pm Thanks Captain, I just deleted that post after reading the link. Should have paid more attention to the rules, eh? I will have 250 posts some day :) Report this Post to the Staff
Bing Pillar of the Community United States 4253 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 3:41 pm Quote: Should have paid more attention to the rules, eh? Don't worry about it oxos. We've all asked the same kind of questions about the rules. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 3:47 pm Well...I was once a moderator here...does it show? I meant nothing of it, other than being helpful. Report this Post to the Staff
oxos Valued Member United States 422 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 4:24 pm Truly no offense taken DVCollector. I should have taken the time to look at them more closely. BTW I love your owls! Regards. Report this Post to the Staff
oxos Valued Member United States 422 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 4:31 pm I was able to find a Galba fourrÃ©e because of JW's vigilant eye. I just purchased it off of ebay and thought that I would share it within this post because of the content. Again, thanks JW. Report this Post to the Staff
dougsmit Pillar of the Community United States 1549 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 8:28 pm oxos: The Otho was $105 in 1999 while the 3/4 of a Vitellius was $11 in 2000. Were it whole, I would value it about the same as the Otho. I have seen about half a dozen of each and owned my first Otho in the 1970's (wish I never sold that one). The Vitellius is the only one I have owned. What are these worth? I don't know but I'm not selling them so it makes no difference. Report this Post to the Staff
oxos Valued Member United States 422 Posts	Posted 02/09/2012 11:43 pm Thanks dougsmit. So far all of the the above have cost less than $100 each. Most much less than that. ($27 the lowest for the Vespasian) But I can image that an Otho or Vitellius like you own would be quite a bit more. (the Otho is in very good shape) My brother told me about a Caligula that they were asking 5 grand for. I suppose the reverse is the ticket there. Are you trying to put together the 12 as well? While I'm at it, I want you know that I studied your educational website and it is very informative. I built a camera stand based on your wooden model for my dslr and used it to photograph the fourrÃ©es. (still needs a bit of tweaking). Also your 'Dirty Dozen' reverses was exceptional. Well done! Regards Report this Post to the Staff
dougsmit Pillar of the Community United States 1549 Posts	Posted 02/13/2012 07:14 am I try to avoid 'trying' to put together sets but let them happen naturally. I certainly would buy a nice looking Caligula or Galba if the price is right or a $10 cull like my Vitellius simple because the opportunity would not always be present. 'Trying' leads to buying coins you don't like at prices you don't like. At present there are probably 20 or 30 'sets' I am 'not trying too hard' to complete and I have no idea which of them will be next to add a coin to the 'incomplete' bunch. It has been quite a while since I have bought a fourree of the 12 since too many people are willing to pay more. Report this Post to the Staff
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