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Kennedy Half Question: 1976 S Silver

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For the 1976 Kennedy halves, there are mintage listings for an S clad, S silver, and also a proof S clad, and proof S silver. Does this mean if I find a 1976 S coin that it could be one of four different types? Are both silver versions 40%?

What is the best way to determine what a coin is? Weight to figure out if it is silver and then sight to figure out if the coin is a standard issue or proof?
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I believe that S mint Kennedys of 1976 were Proof only issues; 40% & Clad versions, not so sure about an UNC 1976-S Kennedy.

"There was a copper-nickel issue and a silver issue. If you had one of each it would be very easy to tell them appart. The copper-nickel clad coin will have a copper colored band around the edge. That would be a dead give away that it is a clad coin and it would also have a nickel color, not a silver color - like a clad Kennedy half dollar for example. The silver issue will have a solid silver band around the edge and have a white silvery color."

http://money.blurtit.com/q403752.html

Someone else posted previously;

"Silver clad should weigh 11.50 grams and copper-nickel clad should be 11.34 grams."

https://goccf.com/t/86342
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The silver is only in proof. And the same with the S. It is only proof.

So a 1976 S can either be clad or 40% silver and both are proof only versions.
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Ok, maybe I am getting confused myself. The Dansco album lists mintages of 7+ million for the S clad, then also 11 million and 4 million for the S silver coins. I found a different website that lists 11 million for the S silver regular strikes, 7+ million for the S clad proof, and 4 million for the S silver proof. The mintages seem to be the same, but the descriptions are confusing. It makes it seem that if the weight is clad, then it is a proof, but if it is silver, then it can either be a regular strike or a proof coin.

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For the 1976 Kennedy halves, there are mintage listings for an S clad, S silver, and also a proof S clad, and proof S silver. Does this mean if I find a 1976 S coin that it could be one of four different types? Are both silver versions 40%?


Yes and yes.
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Sorry, guys, but you are incorrect.

The silver 1976 Kennedy half dollars were available in both uncirculated and proof, and both bear the "S" mint mark. I collect both types and have plenty of each.

It's easy to tell the difference between the 40% silver and normal "clad" versions -- just look at the rims. The 40% silver versions (uncirculated and proof) will appear to be solid silver, whereas the clad versions show a clear copper sandwich.
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I typed that while jokingjoker was posting. He is correct. oih82w8 and wquinn were incorrect.
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The "United States Bicentennial Silver Uncirculated Set" contains a quarter, half-dollar, and dollar coin in 40% silver, with the s mint mark. So, wquinn is incorrect.
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There are three versions for the 1976-S Bicentennial coins. If you have a 1976-S that is Uncirculated(business strike), then it is 40% silver clad. These coins were only available in the 3 coin Bicentennial Mint Set. Proofs are available in silver and CuNi clad with the silver version only available in the 3 coin Bicentennial Proof Set and the CuNi clad version available in 1975 and 1976 Proof Sets.

Weight will not always be an accurate determination since the tolerances for CuNi and silver clad planchets overlap. Check the edge for a pure copper core(silver clad core is 80/20 CuAg which is closer to grey than copper color) and perform a tissue test.
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...it won't be the last time for me (stepping back into my comfort zone)...being incorrect that is. Thanks for the clarification and edification barryg.
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Does this mean if I find a 1976 S coin that it could be one of four different types?

No, only three.


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Are both silver versions 40%?

Yes.

edited because I even confused myself.
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The silver is only in proof. And the same with the S. It is only proof.


Wrong. 40% came with S mint in both proof and unc 3-coin sets. Non-silver clad with S mint came in 1975 and 1976 six-coin proof sets. There are no circulation strike non-silver clad 76s halves.

modified per unholyrollers point.
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Biggfredd? No circulation bicentennial strikes? What are all those ones I find in my boxes then ( which I am soo tired of looking at as the seem to be about half the coin s out there! )....I think your are sorely mistaken there my biggfredd friend :-) if you are meaning no SILVER circulation strikes then yes I agree, but that isn't how you worded it..lol
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The Dansco album lists mintages of 7+ million for the S clad,


Because there's no way to tell whether a 76s clad proof is from a 75 or 76 set once it's taken out.


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then also 11 million and 4 million for the S silver coins.


BU and proof, respectively.


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I found a different website that lists 11 million for the S silver regular strikes,


BU, as noted above


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7+ million for the S clad proof,


As in the first quote.


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and 4 million for the S silver proof.


proof, as noted.


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The mintages seem to be the same, but the descriptions are confusing.


Not once parsed, as above.


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It makes it seem that if the weight is clad, then it is a proof, but if it is silver, then it can either be a regular strike or a proof coin.


Ed Zachary.
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Yes and yes.
-JJ


Uh, no and yes. See long explanation.
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Laugh, thanks for everyone's input on my questions. I am kind of reassured that it is not just me who is confused by the different possibilities for this coin.

This whole question arose because I am pretty sure I found an S silver proof in a NF String box today. It looked like a silver proof, sounded like a silver coin, had the edge of a silver coin, and weighed in at 11.7 grams. I happily added it to the blank halves page in my Kennedy Dansco that is reserved for clad and silver proofs I find in circulation. It is my second silver proof find.
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