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I've been updating my catalog and came across this coin that I forgot I had. It is a DIVA FAVSTINA/AETERNITAS. The obverse isn't good, but the reverse detail is pretty good. What I find odd about this coin is the large piece of metal at the lower right. I can't figure out if it's part of the reverse or a very large Cud. Any ideas what it might be? I also need help with the RIC number.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Hard to say. It doesn't look like crud but I can't find any examples of Faustina / Aeternitas with anything in that part of the field.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Interesting...if it doesn't looks like a foreign object adhered to the coin, I'd be inclined to think it was intentionally part of the die.  |
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If it is part of the die, it's in a strange place right on top of her leg.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 I don't know what it is...but it doesn't look like any Die Cud to me. |
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Pillar of the Community
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This an unusual coin.
The only thing I can think of is that it is part of the flan that was meant to be engraved but never finished.
I looked through a number of Faustina I coins and saw nothing like it. Are you sure it's Faustina?
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It doesn't show well from the obverse image, but the legend reads FAVSTINA DIVA.
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Where is Bobby and JW today? I'm waiting for them to weigh in on this one
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Pillar of the Community
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I looked at this earlier and was also puzzled.
I do think its part of the coin and I also think it should not be there design wise, ie its not an alter or from a variant we have all missed when researching it.
Three thoughts I had (these really are just thoughts atm) were:
Overstamp - whatever the item is its flat so it could be details from a previous design if the flan was re-used. Lack of detail on the RHS of the coin may back this up.
Damaged die - A known damaged die that 'had' to be used.
Double stamp - could it be the remains of a first body that has been struck again and hammered flat and square.
I think whatever it is it must be linked to the damaged elongated letter 'R' at 10 O'clock. Maybe understanding that would point us in the right direction?
Are we 100% certain its a 'AETERNITAS' legend?
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Bobby, I've looked at this thing under the microscope and it's not something that was added to the coin. It is solid and appears to have been struck with the coin. There are no marks visible on the surface just a large flat object. The A in AETERNITAS is just visable at the lower left, it's very thin and narrow almost like it was squeezed in after the other letters where struck. This coin is a mystery.
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Pillar of the Community
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I too tried to find something to match this earlier today, but was unsuccessful. Bobby may be right with the three possibilities. Another theory could be that it is double struck. The object looks like an alter, one like the reverse you might see with Pietas. Other then that, I have no clue. I'm also with bobby regarding the reverse legend. AETERNITAS just doesn't seem right, Anyway, sorry I couldn't be of more help
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Thanks for the input everyone. In hand I'm able to clearly read the reverse legend as Aeternitas. In any event this coin is an oddity and will probably remain unattributed at least for the time being.
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I posted this coin on the other forvm, put I guess they have no idea haven't received any replys.
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An update from the other forum. The thoughts are that it's a Barbaric Imitation. Gil-galad was correct.
Edited by echizento
02/15/2012 2:49 pm
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The thoughts are that it's a Barbaric Imitation. Gil-galad was correct. Interesting - it hadn't even crossed my mind but thinking about it now its certainly a real possibility. Kudos to Gil-galad  |
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