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Marcus Antonius Authentic Or Fake

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 Posted 02/15/2012  12:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Again, I have a chance to buy this coin, but I would like to have everyone's opinion on it's authenticity. I appreciate the help.

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 Posted 02/15/2012  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ahahahaha.jw do you remember my one?the suberate with my restoration attempt?sure yes, I put the images here maybe they can be useful for a comparison with octavian effige...(marc antonius is nearly all reconstructed by me!)
however in my opinion your one is genuine...tell us if you'll buy it....

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 Posted 02/15/2012  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I remember very well giano. I've mentioned this before, but it was Marcus Antonius that got me interested in Roman history, and my first Roman coin was a legionary denarius of his. I am thinking very hard on buying this coin if everyone here agrees it is authentic. Thanks giano, I will let you know if I buy.
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 Posted 02/15/2012  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't really have anything of substance to add, but I'm a little put off by the pictures.
I guess whenever I see coins partially in focus, I give the coin more scrutiny.
My eyes almost see raised lumps in the fields--is that anything to be concerned about?
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 Posted 02/15/2012  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wish I could help but I haven't seen many of these to say for sure.
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 Posted 02/15/2012  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
surely is an expensive coin,in fact I take the suberate without a piece hoping to be able to restore something
because a similar piece in good condition was too expensive...and I have spent a lot for the julius caesar denarius with elephant,I think it's a coin comparable to it as importance...
And if I remember well one of your sons' name is marcus antonius:-)
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You have a good memory giano. My youngest son is named Marcus Antonius. They say there is a lot in a name and I believe that. My youngest son is fiercely loyal to a fault as I believe the original Marcus Antonius was to to JC (at least that is how history portrays him). I should have named my oldest son Augustus for his attributes. Instead we named him Vinny after my gangster uncle. Hmmmmmm
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Something just wasn't right--so I did some searching. I have cobbled together the example above with one taken from the FAC reports Despite the toning and simulated wear, there are too many similarities to be coincidental--imo. But perhaps you've discovered that already?

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Thanks DVC. I think you are right so I am leaving this one alone. As much as I want one I don't want a fake!
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yes I think dvcollector is right,however in this case it's a really well done fake,and jw's pics show that the coin has been further trated to give a certain amount of wear.
Unfortunately, the missing piece to the reverse in the exact same point leaves little doubt.
I'd fallen for this coin, is very well done.
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Unfortunately, the missing piece to the reverse in the exact same point leaves little doubt.
Giano, you're right--that omission is in just the right place--coincidence? Still, there's a little of that crease below the bust visible on both.
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