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 Posted 02/15/2012  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This might be as good as you can do without getting a longer lens with macro capability, or the bellows/lens route. It seems these are 1:1 crops and they will just never be as sharp as you'd like them to be. To get better sharpness, you will need to get more magnification and then downsize the images...Ray
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Okay - added a diopter to the pics (a +10 for the ones shown.. and a +10 on top of a +4 for the one dollar gold). I think this improved them quite a bit.. Thoughts?

Also - regarding the bellows vs longer lens... Am I right in saying that the bellows setup will probably photo the coins better, but the longer lens will have more practical applications outside of numismatics?

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 Posted 02/16/2012  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Also - regarding the bellows vs longer lens... Am I right in saying that the bellows setup will probably photo the coins better, but the longer lens will have more practical applications outside of numismatics?


Yes, both are true.

Some of the new photos look better, but others same or worse. For instance, the 1910 dime obverse looks much better than the reverse. I think you have a focus problem! Either that or your camera is messing with your aperture. But I think you are using A mode, right? So it must be the focus. I would suggest trying a focus sequence:

Set to manual focus
focus until it looks perfect in the viewfinder, then focus just bit off til it starts to look out of focus. Then take a pic, and adjust the focus a tiny bit closer to perfect, take another, and keep doing that until you go out of focus on the other side. Then pick the one that looks best and compare with what the camera tells you is focused. Which is better?

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 Posted 02/16/2012  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nwc coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah - I'll try the focus trick and see how it turns out.

I also noticed with the dipoters that I have to get much closer to the coin, which throws the angle of my lights too low.. and limits the vibrancy of the toning in the pics. I guess to really get close ups I'll have to buy a new lens or bellows..

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Yep, the diopters make the lens a shorter focal length, so you have to get closer to the coin.
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I'm guessing mirror slap vibration is the cause of the softness, I shot every coin shot with mirror lock up, if the Nikon you have doesn't offer that, then use the 2 second timer it's better than your hand as it will give the camera time to settle down after your hand leaves the shutter button.
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 Posted 02/17/2012  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your Nikon may be controllable using ControlMyNikon. It's cheap and allows you to control aperture, focus, etc then snap the picture all with your mouse, no timers, no remotes...Ray
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 Posted 05/01/2012  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nwc coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got a new copy stand for my birthday. Unfortunately, the coins are different - but perhaps we can still determine if the tripod was causing most of the issues?

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 Posted 05/02/2012  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the same coin to me. Did you upload something wrong?
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Did you use the same amount of post-processing sharpening in both of these? The second one looks sharper, but that may just be differences in PP. We need to see a 100% crop with no PP in order to see if the copy stand has improved the image vs the tripod...Ray
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 Posted 05/02/2012  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nwc coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only post processing done was reduction in size of the image via Picasa. Both were handled the exact same.
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 Posted 05/03/2012  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In that case the new image is WAY better than the old. The copy stand is doing the trick! But for some reason the white balance got messed up, or maybe now it's correct?
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