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Help Identifying An Old British Coin....

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This link below I found an exact replica REMAKE of this British penny as it is listed, and the dealer says it is Bronze commemorative medallion seems like if memory serves me right, as it often does NOT, lol.....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VICTORIA-DE...104680024969

O.K., now to the story, guy walks in with 30 minutes left before close, pulls one of these out dated 1896. Looks like gold, and tests good for gold, but I found this link and was like nah this is just bronze, but does not look like it.An he was like it tested good eh, an yeah it did not turn black till I put 22K acid on it....

So, I open up world currency book, and bam there it is, identical with all those strange phrasing ending in Regina. I found the exact one, her image an bonnet an all the correct wording on one side, and King George slaying the dragon on the other, simple Brit Sov artwork, or common on many British coins obviously.....

Now then, the exact one I found said it was 1901 in the world coin book, and said it was basically like 7.9 grams, I weighed it out at 8, so that is right on....

It said it was .916, and its purity was like .22375, and please don't quote that purity figure as it is off and I always forget purity but I am studying it ever shift an taking tests on it etc.. But I was figuring it was a quarter ounce gold piece from 1896....

Here is the crazy part, he bought a gun, and found FIVE of them hidden in the gun case. I told him to bring all 5 back Monday when my manger would be there, as A I wanna buy them all, and B I don't wanna screw up an buy a bronze penny, lol....

Any ideas if I had gold in hand or not, it looked old an perhaps cleaned, but still real nice, and certainly no REMAKE replica coin....
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02/18/2012 6:15 pm
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VICTORIA-DEI-GRA-BRITT-REGINA-FID-DEF-IND-IMP

That is what the coin said around the lady on the front side....
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It said it was .916, and its purity was like .22375,

Interesting coin for sure, Hawk. I'm thinking that the purity is 0.916, and the gold weight is 0.22375 troy oz.

I have no idea whether or not this is a genuine gold coin but between the testing and your manager, the truth should become known shortly.
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It said it was .916, and its purity was like .22375


Gold content on a sovereign is 0.2354 oz, 0.916 = 22k.
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King George slaying the dragon on the other...

It's "Saint George", not "King George".

The British penny didn't have the St George-slaying-dragon design. British pennies are much larger (31mm diameter in the 1890s) and depict on the reverse Britannia seated on a rock with the ocean behind.

I should also point out that the ebay replica linked to above copy has atrocious artwork. A genuine "old head" Victoria sovereign looks more like this example from the CCF gallery:
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Sovereigns were struck at numerous mints throughout the British Empire. In the 1890s, they were being struck at three mints in Australia (Sydney, Melbourne and Perth) and at the central mint in London. Australian-minted sovereigns have a mintmark, in the ground-line above the date (a very small S, M or P) while London-minted coins have no mintmark.

Sovereigns typically sell for bullion value only, especially if they're worn or cleaned, but let us know the dates/mintmarks of whatever coins you obtain; there could be something with a numismatic premium.
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"Sovereigns typically sell for bullion value only"
- subject to some spectacular exceptions
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Great call Sap, that picture you posted looks more like it. I think we are indeed dealing with 5 real gold coins here....
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It's "Saint George", not "King George".

Indeed, Sap. Kings have knights for that kind of work while the king holds down the fort in the castle.
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