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 Posted 02/21/2012  08:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jj5051 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good morning,
I have started a collection with my two kids and have mainly been searching bags of coins for wheat and silver. We have accumulated enough silver to redeem and purchase some coins. I am hopeful to build this into a nice collection for them one day. With that said, what are your opinions on a starting "foundation" for our collection? If I have $200 to get started with should I buy 10 $20 coins or one nice $200 coin? Thanks in advance for any help and advice you guys can offer.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add almingbg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buy a $200 coin. Cheap coins will remain cheap, and can easily be traded for other cheap coins.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DM1975 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, I agree. Buy one or two more expensive coins and plug in the cheap stuff as you go. I am trying to buy one or two high quality coins a month and a few cheap mint sets or other cheaper coins I am interested in a month as I can afford it. Just make sure you buy the coin with the best eye appeal that you can afford. Not all coins of the same grade are the same quality.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd stay away from large expendatures for now at least. My reasoning is so many people jump into a hobby, loose interest and poof, there goes a lot of unreusable money. Although a $200 coin may sound like an investment, you must remember that if tomorrow you decide to stop this hobby, you'll find out you would be lucky to get a decent percent of that back.
Collecting average, easy to find in change or bank rolls or some of the other sources of coins could be more fun too. Asking neighbors, relatives and friends may also turn up something you could use. Not sure about your kids ages but remember if young, they change their likes and dislikes almost as fast as gasoline prices. I've seen way to many people try to get kids interested in something only to find out they have many other things on their minds.
If I were you for now I'd stick to attempting to complete sets via the cheapest methods.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ContraJame to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have many variables to account for.

Is this the foundation of your personal collection or the family collection? Have you already decided on what you'll collect? What are your kids interested in? Will this collection be funded with silver finds or will you invest your own money (budget is always something to think about short and long term)?
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 Posted 02/21/2012  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DM1975 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just Carl, why would he only get a percentage of the cost of the coin back? Maybe if selling to a dealer, but a private sale should get that money back unless he overpaid for the coin or the bottom suddenly drops out of that market. If he buys $200 of cheap coins and decides tomorrow to get out of the coin hobby then that is a ton of sales that need to be made to get anything back at all or try and find someone that would be willing to buy "that particular" group of coins at that cost. That $200 coin is that price for a reason, people want it and will pay that price for it.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with both sides of the equation here. Bottom line, what interests you and your kids? My suggestion, and it certainly wouldn't be for everyone, would be to buy as many decent Morgan dollars as you can for that much money. You can get Uncirculated Morgans close to melt value for the years that they were plentiful. My guess is that you could buy probably 4-5 really nice Morgans for $200. If the hobby doesn't pan out, they will be the easiest thing to put back into the market since they have silver value alone. Good luck and welcome to the forum.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buy the $200 coin. The $20 coins will always be available and may even cost less with some shopping around. Do your research first before you buy that $200 coin. Always buy KEY DATE coins for your collection first.
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usually I would say buy the best coin you can afford but since this is something you are doing with kids I really feel differently in this situation. I know my daughter didn't care if she had a 500.00 coin in her collection all she really cared about was all the different types of coins she had. So I am going to suggest getting as many different classic designs as you can with the money and then if they decide they like one series over another you know what to get when you are ready for those bigger purchases
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I agree with Bryan 1315. I have a 7 year old and if I handed her a $200 coin or a State Quarter with a buffalo she would like the buffalo better. It might be better to start out with something they can stay interested in,fill some holes and seem like they are getting something for their work. Maybe a type set book. They can see a lot of different types of coins and maybe see something that will spark the next set. Just my opinion.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DM1975 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bryan1315, that is a very good point. Myself, I try to balance things out by buying a few different mint sets or proof sets to keep my son interested, but I focus the bulk of my money on buying the best coins I can. That way, if he loses interest the coins that we're bought for that don't have a lot of money payed out on them, but the bulk of my collection remains higher valued coins that I can more easily get my money back on if needed, or don't have to worry about getting at a higher price later if that interest grows.
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I have a 7 year old and if I handed her a $200 coin or a State Quarter with a buffalo she would like the buffalo better.

Heh. I guess it all depends on the 7-year-old. Mine started out like that, but now the first question he asks when I show or give him a coin is, "how much is it worth?" Greedy little bugger...
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 Posted 02/21/2012  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jj5051 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the responses. I am being very careful with the direction I go. The background behind this starting is that my father has collected coins for almost 50 years. After helping him organize and sort I realized that they are kind of a hodge podge of things worth nore in melt than anything. He has a few nice ones here and there but it made me start thinking about trying to build something for my children. We are funding this right now through silver we find searching bank rolls. We also search bags of pennies for wheat that the kids like looking for. Anyways, my daughter is smart enough to understand keeping the better ones we find and throwing the others back but knows nothing of value besides her daddy telling her what omething might be worth. Anyways, all your points are valid. We bought the kids proof sets for Christmas and have found approximately 200 wheats and $130 in silver. I want to start buying and was going to look for mint state wheats as a starter to maybe get 8-10. I like the suggestions and advice, thanks.
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 Posted 02/22/2012  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Just Carl, why would he only get a percentage of the cost of the coin back? Maybe if selling to a dealer, but a private sale should get that money back unless he overpaid for the coin or the bottom suddenly drops out of that market.

You must be having some fantastic luck in sales of coins. Almost anyone just starting out would buy a coin for $200 and go nuts trying to find a place or someone to resell it to and/or for. Most know that via ebay they would possibly loose and still hav to pay postages, insurances, etc.
As a person that tried to at one time get my Son into coins I found that lasted for a few years and then moderazation took over and way to many things like computer games, girls, cars, etc were a lot more interesting than coins. He never did go back to coins. Same with many people I know that have tried to interest their kids with that hobby. With todays computer games, cell phones, small take with internet, coins are rather dull for most kids. Yes there are those that would but that is taking a chance.
I still say stick with a large quantity and variety of coins. Much more interesting for kids. Show most kids a $200 coin and may as well be a peice of candy.
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I think it's important to teach kids the value of saving, investing, not going into debt, early.
What ever you do, stay away from this modern junk as often seen on ebay, HSN, etc.
If you guys want to start with Lincoln Cents, go with mid-grade, problem free coins. The big ones, also known as the key dates, 1909-S VDB, 1914-D, should be bought by a reputable dealer only.
Good luck!
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 Posted 02/22/2012  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DM1975 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Carl, how much in fees and shipping do you think you would lose in trying to sell $200 worth of common coins?
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