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I recently picked these two up as part of a larger lot. The first obviously is a probus, but I am not sure as to where it was minted. The mint mark is very clear though.

The second unfortunately has some notable patina problems, but I still want to ID it properly. I can make out the letters "S...LIHN..." in the obverse lettering, but I am not sure which emperor this may be. A partial inscription search on wildwinds yields many hits for Gallienus. Is this in the right ballpark? Also, I am not sure as to the mint. Which mint does "O" indicate?



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The Propus was minted at Serdica, KA Gamma mintmark.
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The second coin looks like Aurelian RIC 248 or 254 depending on the obverse legend
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The first coin is Probus RIC 877
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jwharper- Thanks for the input! That really gives me a great start. Any guesses as to the RIC# on the probus? But when it comes to the Aurelian, both RIC 248 & 254 do not seem to have "O" mint marks on Wildwinds. Does O indicate Siscia?
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I believe that is probably a "Q" in exerque and I believe that is Rome.
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jwharper- Ah, great! Thanks for all of the help. B

But I do have one last question. The probus seems like a fairly unusual coin to me due to its place of minting. What is the rarity of this coin? (I'm also curious since a few of the other coins in this lot were a tad disappointing, so I hope that this one makes up for it.)
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The reverse on the second coin appears to be ORIENS AVG.
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I think the Probus is actually RIC 880 and its listed as common
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jwharper- Really, 880? hmm, but according to wildwinds 880 features a bust with a radial crown that is facing right. My coin features probus facing left and with a scepter in his hand. So I think that it might be RIC 877H
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You are correct. I was in a hurry. Sorry
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No worries,jwharper. Thanks for all of the help!
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Probus: Why not RIC 889? Both 880 and 877 list obverses A, F and G but not H (which this coin is) and neither matches the obverse legend shown here. 889 requires a second enemy under the horse and this coin is not clear there but possibly? At least 889 come with either A or H and has the right legend. RIC volume 5 is a mess so I have no idea what all the options are.
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Probus: Why not RIC 889? Both 880 and 877 list obverses A, F and G but not H (which this coin is) and neither matches the obverse legend shown here. 889 requires a second enemy under the horse and this coin is not clear there but possibly? At least 889 come with either A or H and has the right legend. My error: 889 is galloping left so I'd call this unlisted unless it is another mint that I failed to check. RIC volume 5 is a mess so I have no idea what all the options are.



A point here: Many coins of Probus allow several very different obverses under the same RIC number. Why they cataloged it this way I do not know.
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