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The detail is weak and the focus is all over the place it seems. The last few shots I didn't orient so it's crooked. Please ignore that. xD My light for these two photos was 1X 100W incandescent at ~12" away at ~30 degrees and roughly 11:00. I think I have lots of opportunity for improvement with lighting. Toss your ideas at me. I'll play more tomorrow night or Sunday. F/5, 1/40, ISO-80  F/4.5, 1/60, ISO-80 
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No feedback whatsoever, eh? :(
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I'm so sorry, man - I downloaded one of your images almost immediately, and once I discovered what you're shooting with, was all set to post some serious compliments here. Apparently I forgot to.  Others have asked about the Canon SX130, and I believe you've just proven here that it's as good as any point-and-shoot for imaging coins. Yes, there's room for improvement, but the basic images are right up there. You want a faster exposure. It's my opinion with a P&S that faster exposure = sharper contrast. That means two lights as opposed to one, somewhere around the typical "10 and 2" that we discuss here. Keep the ISO at 80 or 100 - a P&S will introduce noise far earlier than a dSLR. Open the aperture (lower numerically) as far as you can in the interest of faster exposures - it was my experience with both the Canon A720 and Panasonic LX5 that aperture could be just about wide-open and still have enough depth of field to get the whole coin. Like most lenses, though, you're going to want it one step back from wide-open for better sharpness. Shoot for exposures faster than 1/200. I don't know if these are full-size images, or if you've downsized. If you're downsizing, back the camera off a bit so the coin is a little smaller on the sensor. The SX130 can be a tad soft at the corners, and you may be running a little afoul of that with focus. Of course, the usual: Delayed exposure, and careful lens-coin-parallel placement, right? You're going to quickly reach the point here where postprocessing skills will come in to play.
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Here's an original from the last set. After looking back I think this is probably the best shot from the night. I left it uncropped for reference. F/3.4, 1/125, and ISO-100. If I reduce the exposure time without increasing the aperture size or vice verse the image gets too dark. I assume that means I'm at my limits until I get another light on the coin? I can do what you said but the picture becomes increasingly darker. Is that where postprocessing will come into play? I did use delayed exposure. I also used a mirror and lined up my lens with my platform to make sure things were parallel. Should I drop my camera down closer to the coin? As I recall I was ~8" away. I could maybe get down to 4" from the coin without eclipsing my lighting. I might be able to squeak more focus out of the images without getting onto the edges of the sensor? The only problem is lighting (surprise, ha). 
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For the moment, "No" to all the above except lighting. Now that I see where you are in the frame, down the road in the process we're probably going to be moving you even closer to the coin, not farther away. How far away from the coin is the camera?
But more candlepower first and foremost. Are you in a place where you can reach an Ikea for the Jansjo LED's we're so high on here? One of their real advantages is the infinite configurability because of the gooseneck and their small size. Two of them do not add up to a 100w incandescent, but they spread the available light around much more accurately, and are far more tightly-focused.
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No Ikea's in range (closest is 350 miles - ouch). I'll pick up a couple from online. I think I have an Amazon gift card I can use. I was ~8" away from the coin. I found it to be the happy medium between distance to the coin and room for light. That'll change with the Jansjo's.
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Quote: That'll change with the Jansjo's. Precisely, and to your advantage. The bigger the coin is when you start, the sharper it'll be when you post. No, we're not going to achieve the same 100% crops with an SX130 that can be done with a dSLR and a pro lens, but we will darn well get you posting images that people will happily grade.
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Pillar of the Community
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ContraJame-I have been interested in the Jansjo also, but they are not available online (if I am looking at the right model). I, like you do not have an IKEA in easy driving range. I would be interested if you find them somewhere else.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks SuperDave-just ordered two; hope this helps my pics.
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Keep in mind, it's their versatility in placement which is the improvement, and it'll require a learning curve. our exposures might increase as a result.
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ContraJame...sorry, coming in late on this one but I would like to suggest a couple things...
I think the SX130 has a 4000x3000 sensor, right? It appears you are filling approx 50% vertically of the sensor with your Dollar. This implies a raw size of approx 1500 vertical height for the Dollar. My suggestion is processing the image by first doing a downsizing of original image to 2000x1500, then cropping an 800x800 image that will contain the coin with a little black field around it. Right now your coin image is just under 1000x1000 and I am having trouble figuring out how you got that size based on your original image. By doing a precise 2x downsize then crop, you will give the jpg algorithm it's best hope of a high fidelity resize...Ray
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Ray,
You're right about the sensor size. I got the 1000 X 1000 size by cropping my original. No downsizing or resizing occurred. I'm sure your advice will come into play in my next session after I get my lighting upgraded, though. :)
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Pillar of the Community
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You may consider downsizing even from 1000x1000 to 500x500 since you will get a boost in sharpness when you do it, and 500x500 is still plenty big for web publishing...Ray Edited to add...here's 2x downsized plus some levels adjustment on your first image... 
Edited by rmpsrpms 02/27/2012 10:50 am
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Jansjo's came in. I didn't have much time to dig in but I did take a few shots. I'm not too impressed but I'm also pretty worn out from today. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Here's the last set of shots I took before calling it a night: http://imgur.com/a/qDlqI
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I was most impressed with the very top picture in this thread. It really makes her look beautiful. If I could take pics that good, I'd call it done right there.
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