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Possible 1969-S Error

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Started collecting nearly 30 years ago when I was a kid and then stopped, I now have a 11yr old who is into it and I'm culling through all my olds.

can you tell me if the "9" on this date is a mis-strike?

Also if anyone thinks the other is a 70-s small date. the more I look at it, the more I say no.



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 Posted 02/27/2012  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1970S is a large date.

I'm gonns take a guess and say the "9" is damage from a coin roller. It wasn't done during the minting process. IMO
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IMHO, the 1969 is a die defect of some sort, Probably lamination. The 1970 is not a small date. You got lucky on the 1960, but sort about the 1970:C
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If you look in front of Lincolns chin there is definite markes were something hit the coin. Also what ever damaged the 9 also damaged the 1..(again this is just my opinion)
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 Posted 02/27/2012  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clearly PMD.
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But more importantly (where are my manors)...

to the forum Back at it!
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IMHO, the 1969 is a die defect of some sort, Probably lamination


A die defect and lamination are two completely unrelated errors.

But the coin in question is just damaged and the 70 is a large date.
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 Posted 02/28/2012  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add backatit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone. Does Anyone have a good list of years to look for when searching rolls. I try and get my daughter $40 every week or so but we havent found much. I want her to get a good find to cement her interest before too long.

thanks
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I would say buy her a cent Folder for 1975-present. Every time she gets to fill a hole it will be a "good find".
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ya she's filled cent and quarter books up. Recently she's been looking for silver coinage but when I showed her the variations and errors that were out there she got really excited. I was just wondering if there was a good comprehensive list of Errors and variations out there. we've compiled a list from the Red Book and from the LCR.

thanks
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 Posted 02/28/2012  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say buy her a $35 digital microscope and send her to coppercoins.com

I also did a quick search and found this... Might be helpful

http://koinpro.tripod.com/ErrorVarietyList.htm
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 Posted 02/28/2012  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add backatit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow, TMI...

thanks
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And you can look at CONECA too and see if there are any attributions guides that you'd like to buy:
http://conecaonline.org/attribution_guide.html

The Lincoln RPM 1 and 2 books are sold out, but sometimes you can find a copy at an online book store or ebay. Dr Wiles has been updating his web site, instead of updating the books now:
http://www.varietyvista.com/

Also, the Cherrypicker's guides are helpful too.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...cherrypicker
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we are definatley in over our heads.

Let me ask a sorting question then. how much time do you guys spend looking at a particular coin in any given roll? Do you look at every coin for possible variation?
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so what would make such a clean PMD and what is lamination?

thx

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Let me ask a sorting question then. how much time do you guys spend looking at a particular coin in any given roll? Do you look at every coin for possible variation?


I believe our resident expert(and worldwide expert for that matter) coppercoins sorts via the last numeral of the date to start with. Then you bunch them into decades maybe? he will be along and should see this post and can answer.

Having said that, he also has a book published called "looking through Lincoln Cents" I think? Can't remember the exact name even though I own a copy. Doah. It would be a great resource to have on hand.

One other thing, while I am not an error collector or die variety collector, I do enjoy reading the posts here in this forum. From what I understand, get yourself familiar with what a coin "should" look like and the errors/varieties will be easier to find. This will take TIME though. If you pick up a coin and flip through pages of a book and online looking to see if it's something, I don't think you will get anywhere fast and frustration will be quick. Find yourself a normal cent, study it as a baseline, and then just start scanning things. Eventually lots of folks see things that are not there because they are trying to hard. Post pictures here and the experts will help.

One final note. Coppercoins has probably searched through millions of cents in his life and there are still posts and "finds" listed here that he himself has never found. Just to give you an idea of how long it may take to find something..... Good luck and have patience.
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