Dump Coins | Late "bull And Horseman" Jitals

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numismatist6 Valued Member United States 360 Posts	Posted 03/05/2012 12:57 pm I guess these are Indian dump coins but I can't find them in SCWC for 19th or 20th century. Maybe my eyes just tired on the sqiggles! The left one is copper, 13.3mm in diameter, 3.4mm thick and weighs 3.40 grams The right one may be billon, measures 12.9mm in diameter, 2.9mm thick and weighs 3.28 grams. Anyone have any knowledge on these? Thanks Identified - moved to World Coins forum - Sap Edited by numismatist6 03/05/2012 12:58 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Enlil Pillar of the Community Australia 560 Posts	Posted 03/05/2012 8:58 pm They are Indian Bull and Horseman coins, issued under various rulers, both Hindu and Islamic. Report this Post to the Staff
numismatist6 Valued Member United States 360 Posts	Posted 03/06/2012 5:54 pm Thanks for the info! Report this Post to the Staff
coincollectorjj Valued Member United States 62 Posts	Posted 03/06/2012 6:14 pm Indian dump coins? What does that mean? I thought dump coins are what you dump at the bank that you don't want? Report this Post to the Staff
svslav Pillar of the Community United States 2605 Posts	Posted 03/06/2012 6:42 pm There's a glossary link on the left. It doesn't have everything but there's some good stuff there. Quote: Dump Any coin which is unusually thick for it's size. Often applied to the native coinage of India, and to any small coin punched out of the centre of a larger one; the New South Wales "Dump" was punched out of the centre of a Spanish dollar. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16850 Posts	Posted 03/06/2012 8:24 pm Yep, they're "bull and horseman" jitals, and they're way older than any of the Krause catalogues. The one on the right is probably the older of the two, given that it's less stylized. Some of our Indian coin experts could probably date them better than me, but I'd guess 1000-1200 AD. They're probably made of billon (debased silver) rather than copper. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
drnsreedhar Pillar of the Community India 1995 Posts	Posted 03/07/2012 12:16 pm It is true that this is a bull and horseman type coin. On the side with the stylizedd recumbent bull, there is the legend in Nagari script reading Sree Samantadeva, parts of which are visible on both the coins. On the other side, there is a stylized horseman above which the name of the issuing ruler is often found in the later period issues. Unfortunately, that is not seen on these coins. This type of coinage lasted for about four centuries in the Northwestern area of India. Report this Post to the Staff
numismatist6 Valued Member United States 360 Posts	Posted 03/07/2012 12:35 pm Many thanks! Super sleuthing. Report this Post to the Staff
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