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Spanish Coin? | Replica Mexico 1801 8 Reales

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 Posted 03/13/2012  09:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JustChecking to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello! Please help me identify this coin I found, it's in a rather good( I think ) condition, I just want to know:
1. What kind of coin it is.
2. Whether it's real or fake.
3. How much it's worth, if it's real.
The front is a picture of a human with the words:
·DEI·GRATIA·1801·CAROLUS·IIII·
The reverse is a picture of a shield(?) with a crown on top of it and 2 poles(?) beside it and the words:
·HISPAN·ET IND·REX·(It's a "o"/0 on top of a "M")·8R·F·M·
The diameter is around 4cm.
For some reason I can't upload an image, I'll keep trying.

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 Posted 03/13/2012  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are describing an 8 reale from the mexico City mint. But, a picture is necessary to confirm its authenticity. Can you weigh the coin also?
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The lettering looks off to me as do the denticles. I am in no way an expert at this series. If you are patient there are several members here who will chime in soon. They will be able to answer all your questions. WELCOME to CCF!
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03/13/2012 10:18 am
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Ok thanks for the quick replies.
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I believe it is a cast counterfeit- there are many raised dots in the detaile, the denticles are not good, the details look too good in places,and missing in others. The weight should be 13.5357 grams.
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Do I see reeding on the edge?
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Quote:
2. Whether it's real or fake


Appears to be a poor fake.
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I think this is a counterfeit. The design seems flat and lacks detail. Check the hair on the obverse and the crown on the reverse and the lettering. I also don't like the look of the wear on this coin. High details on the margins and spots of wear on the center. Weird - and potentially hiding problems with the design elements. You can search the web for images of this coin and compare. Here's one from ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEXICO-8-RE...t_5629wt_670
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03/13/2012 12:33 pm
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Quote:
The weight should be 13.5357 grams.


Maybe closer to 26.7 grams ?

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Thanks for the identification, after looking and comparing, I agree that it's fake. Well, looks like I can't have high hopes for things I found in a dried drain!
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