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1953 Henning Nickel (I Think I Got One)!

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Its the best pics I could take with my poor equipment , tell me your opinion
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I hope you guys can see the hole on the left leg of the letter "R" , I hope its not my eyes tricking me !

Give me your opinion if its the genuine , original , real fake henning nicke ...l
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Do you have a way to weigh it? I don't think the left leg of the letter "R" on yours has the hole. I owned a 1939 at one time and the hole was very prominent on it. That being said, the surfaces of yours look like one. An actual Federal nickel will weigh 5.0 grams; Hennings weighed about 5.5 grams. Hope you have one!
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Like CND said, that is not the correct hole in the leg of the R. But it does have the look of a Henning. Could you get the weight and a few more close up pictures? Specifically the the area of the field just to the left of the dome, the M in UNUM and AMERICA.
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Here are more details on what to look for on those nickels, including a few photos, but they aren't that close up to really see the R:
http://www.numismaticenquirer.com/T...0Nickel.html
http://lameadventures.wordpress.com...ning-nickel/
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I think only one of his reverse dies had the hole in the R.
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Aye only one of the reverse dies had a hole in the R.

If it weighs at 5.5 grams, congrats! You have a Henning. :-)
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Where are you guys getting the fact that only one of the six dies Henning claimed to have made did not have the hole in the R? I don't think this is true.
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There are Henning nickels without the hole, so it could not have been on all of the dies.
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That is true. There are Hennings with a hole in the R and Hennings without the hole in the R. So we know when Henning made his reverse dies at least one of his host coins had a hole in the R and at least one of his host coins didn't have this defect. Henning claimed to have made 6 reverse dies. I currently have over 40 Hennings dated 1944. I buy them as they come along. Half of my Hennings have the hole and half don't. So it just makes sense to me that more than one of his reverse dies did not have the hole. I have never read where anyone claimed only one die had this defect and if this claim is out there I would like to read it. That is why I was asking. But from my observations this is not true.
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with pyrbob; from my understanding the hole is found on about 50% of the Hennings. The other die shows small marks in the field under UNUM. Don't see those in your photo but a closer shot might reveal these. Plus, the weight is key. Take it to a local jewelry store if you do not have a scale; I'm sure they would be happy to weigh it for you.
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still looking for mine

Lots of info in search box top left.
or try

...Found a 1947 Henning nickel.. in box

no P mm in yours. good sign
Hope you got one!
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You have 40 Hennings? How 'bout you spread some of those around to those of us who are still looking for ONE?

I was under the impression that it was an artifact of the process he used to make the dies, along with the dimples, rough appearance and other flaws, and would be a chance appearance on just one die. Have you studied your 44s often enough to know how many die pairs they represent?

After all, we're just taking the guy's word on how many dies he claimed to have. There are only five known dates, but he claimed to have six sets of dies. Maybe there were two 44 die pairs, and one each for the other 4 dates?
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It was always my guess that two of the dies were 1944 since we see so many of this date. According to the Dwight Stuckey book written in 1982 about the Henning nickels Henning said he made the 1944 coins and took them in rolls to the bank claiming they were from his vending business. The teller dumped one roll out and counted them. As she reroled them she commented it was interesting they were all 1944's. He said it was that experience that caused him to make other years. But he wasn't doing this very long so I don't know if he struck very many of the other years or not. Looking for them is the challenge.
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I always assumed that the '44 was the most common because it would stand out the most as anomalous to a roll hunter, even if they weren't looking or even knew about Hennings. But that theory makes sense too and has more historical heft (though they're not mutually exclusive).
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The 44 and 39 dates are the only ones that are easily identifiable by hand, I wasnt aware of the looped R being on any other date besides 39 and 44
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I submit to all that pyrbob is our CCF family expert on Hennings ... and I also pay attention to pyrbob opinions on the topic.

This subject has come up many time in the past ... and here is a link to an archived thread that (at the time) accumulated our best collective knowledge about Henning Jefferson nickels.

With all due respect to CND ... Note ... according to our expertise at that time ... weight alone is NOT a way to be sure!

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=53117

Relative to the OP coin ... I am not sure. The true 'hole in the R' would be good ... but read the thread above and try to match some of the other markers/characteristics that we believe define a Henning.

David
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