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A 'Cleaning' Question About My Specific Coin

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 Posted 03/20/2012  6:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
need some help with this coin. I admit it upfront. I bought it off of ebay but iI think I got a good deal but that really isn't my concern.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAP...ue&rt=nc&ru=http://www.ebay.com:80/sch/i.html%3F_from=R40&_trksid=p4712.m570.l1313&_nkw=320869025256&_sacat=See-All-Categories&_fvi=1&si=AMuJ71D2Gda7sLTFwulyxTET4Uw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I'm not looking to start yet another cleaning discussion. But I would like to see if I could get some of this black off of this coin. I was concerned at first, it was not genuine because I haven't seen any silver coins that looked like this - mind you I don't have very many silver coins so my experience is extremely limited. I weighed it and it came in at 13.78, Krause says it should be 13.88. It is not magnetic so I'm thinking it is probably real. That aside (unless someone can say it is not real), does anyone have any suggestions to help 'clean' this up a bit. It is circulated coin as you can tell so I don't think I need to worry about luster or anything. I'm not thinking about anything harsh but it is not very appealing in the 2 x 2 without a significant amount of light to show some detail. it looks a little bluish if you ask me. Any suggestions
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 Posted 03/20/2012  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Prolly real, lotsa bad scratches. If you wanna keep it, use distilled water, then acetone. Lots of these without scratches and ugly toning, I'd return it.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for the opinion, anyone have any good ideas on the black stuff.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I'd leave it alone. Dipping it in tarnish remover will get rid of the black but, being a circulated coin, it would leave the surface grey and lifeless.

As biggfredd said, there are plenty of these out there that are more pleasing to the eye. There are also plenty of collectors out there who actually prefer their Nazi coins to look authentically nasty like this.

I'd recommend keeping it for a while, and see if you learn to like it. If you don't, then sell and upgrade.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dark coin and a dark piece of history,leave it as is,somehow seems appropriate.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the amount you have invested a further expendature of cleaning items may not be worth the trouble. For example even to go out and purchase Distilled water and Acetone would cost about $5 or more. Then too with the price of gas for a car being what it is today, You would probably spend more in gas than what you paid for that coin. Next add in your time at minimum wages and your really getting lost.
Next if those items don't work, Your investment in that coin is really going up, up, up and as already noted a much better one could be purchased easier.
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I rather like the way it looks, so I would not do a thing to it.

I am sure there are others that would like it as well. If you do not like it, then sell it to someone who will and buy one that appeals to you.

There is no sense in trying to improve it, too many risks.
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There is nothing you can do for the color which will not forever ruin this coin in the eye of any serious student of numismatics. If you aren't happy with it as-is, it needs to move from your collection into that of someone who appreciates it. No harm, no foul - we each decide our own preferences - but the coin needs to remain what it is right now.
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thank you. I, too, actually prefer the used look of the coin. I'm just not thrilled with the darkness. I was hoping to find an easy way to get this off but as I said initially I don't own much silver and I didn't know what this black could be.

the hardware store is a short bike ride away so no gasoline required

And maybe I'm really off here but melt is like $13 and change, so I'm a little confused on why folks think I paid a lot for it. And by the way, I'm more than happy to buy a better one if someone has one for sale at melt plus a little!


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Raw silver tarnishes very easily when exposed to airborne pollutants. These can include a wide variety of substances that are common in the air, and they become more concentrated when confined indoors. Most folks give these substances very little thought because they are familiar and usually not strong enough to cause concern, except to those with allergies. For example, if you buy a new piece of upholstered furniture, you will perhaps notice that 'new' smell. That is due to airborne contamination from the materials like glue that are used in manufacture. One of the commonest indoor pollutants, and one particularly hazardous to shiny coins, is tobacco smoke. The 'blackness' on coins is usually either silver oxide, or silver sulfide. Neither is soluble in water or acetone but both can be removed easily with 'dips' and the like, resulting in a coin with an unnatural uniform cleanliness that immediately screams 'I was cleaned!'
Maintaining the original dark toning should be the goal here. Very likely a gentle acetone bath or light Q-tip swab would improve the appearance by removing surface oil gained from handling, while leaving the toning undisturbed.
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