2001 Volunteers Dime - P Die Grooves On The Obverse &moar

I find it very hard to believe that someone would pay 1500.00 for a modern die clash unless tricked into believing it was rare. Sorry, just my thoughts on it.

Agreed. That's why the U.S. "Three-legged Buffalo" nickel is one coin that collectors debate over. A simple case of overpolishing created this. Someone gave it an intriguing name and voila!... a high demand is created.

I collect die clashes but most are found in circulation or bargain bins.

I won't discourage anyone from collecting what they like but I personally won't pay big bucks for for something like this. If someone does, fine, it's their money.

This coin : " 10 cents 2010 Volunteers ", with an exceptional DIE CLASH, is one the rarest that I know !

"Promotion of a clash is admirable, but saying there are only 2 known is misguided as well as misleading."


I don't get it nickelsguy, why would that be?

Hiding informations or giving false informations on purpose would be, but I can't see what's misguided or misleading here...
I'm not saying there can't be any other one out there, only that so far, only 2 have been discovered despite the fact many error hunters were, and still are, looking for it.

I totally understand that someone who's not into error coins wouldn't pay 2$ for that, but how can we judge people who collect those and the price someone is willing to pay?

Ok, english is not my first language and since I like precision, I guess I should have write "we know of 2".
If anyone felt miguided or mislead, my apologies.

What I know though is that even if we discuss semantic, it doesn't make this coin more common.

I can't believe the $1500 offer was declined.How much does the owner think it's worth? Maybe it's emotional attachment,my dog cost less than a dime,wouldn't sell her for $1500,but that's not because she's worth more.

Let's go through this again...

2 coins like this were found SO FAR, meaning there are PROBABLY some more out there.
That's why I'm asking Ortiable to present his own coin, because we've been on this project for over 4 years now, thousands examined, but only 2 discovered.
I've no doubt someone else will come up with a 3rd one someday, only for now, we know it's a hard one to find.

Now the 1st collector to find this clash (jan. 2008) decided, after a while, to send it to CCCS for certification, and it came back as an AU-50.
3 years later (march 2011), she received the 1500$ offer, and knowing that collector a bit, I have no reason to believe that this offer wasn't true.
Actually she's everything but an eager seller. She never tried to sell her coin before this offer, and never used this offer in trying to sell the coin after.
Neither did I.

Why someone would pay that much, and why this collector declined, I've no clue. DBM mentioned "emotional attachment", it might be.
The 1500$ that came up wasn't a price she asked, someone just offered it.
So unlike ikandiggit's example, this time the buyer came up with that price, it wasn't the seller's.

Still, on Numicanada, we all had the same reaction you guys have now: 1500$ is way over what we would have think.
And it DOESN'T mean it sets up a price for this coin.
Actually I regret I brought that up, because now we're talking more of the $$$ than the coin itself.

Nevertheless, 3 months after that offer (june 2011), I finally found a 2nd one.

On my side, I never received any offer for this coin. If you ask, would I receive the exact same offer, yes I would sell. I would send the coin for certification, and would probably send it in a nice coloured box with a large red ribbon, along with a nice chocolate box.
And my guess is that the collector who was willing to pay 1500$ would probably lower his offer, knowing that the coin he was willing to buy is not presumed "unique" anymore (we're talking speculation here, assuming that being a recent coin, someone could open a roll tomorrow and find 15 of those).

So the real concrete facts for now:
-we know of 2 coins with these clashes so far
-none was sold or traded, so there is no real price to refer to


Hope I made things a bit clearer.

I didn't mean to upset anyone, I was just pointing out that that is an enormous amount of money for a fairly comment defect. I have several die clashes on coins that have far more dramatic clashing than what's shown here that I'd have a hard time getting more than a few dollars for.

I realize that it's the demand for it that dictates the value but in this case until one actually sells for that asking price, to me it's just a die clash worth what I think is a few bucks at most.

I have a "rare" $10 banknote (the inverted serial number). There should be at least forty of these notes in circulation but so far after 2 years, I have the only one. The market value says it's worth $400-$500. If unique, it should be worth far more but until I sell it, I could say it's worth $10,000 or if someone offered me $10,000 for it and I declined, it would still have the market value of $400-$500 not $10,000 whether I thought it was or if that was what was offered to me.

That's all that I was saying.