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Disagree common. I have checked all the 1984 and pennies that I have collected and the thing here is the rim. Non of the coins I have have no wear and tear or any damage what so ever. As I stated, it has something to do with the rim.
Edited by folcan99
04/06/2012 09:52 am
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Rest in Peace
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Hi folcan99
I took your picture of the 2 coins and drew a line on both of them with a program called Shutter from the beads to the edge of your coins...Then brought it up in a program called Gimp to do a measure.
1 - Coin on left measured 74.7 pixels.
2 - Coin on right measured 75.1 pixels.
I would say they are equal, and any variation may be caused by my eyes (everyone would draw the lines a little different in length).
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Interesting thread folcan99, but you really need mint state coins to do proper comparisons. Then, you have to eliminate "noise" from those coins. Noise would be striking peculiarities, like how well and centred the rims are struck, Machine Doubling phenomena and the state of the die. As the die deteriorates, the beads actually get a little larger and less well-defined. Rolls of BU 1984 cents can be found for a couple of bucks on ebay. Good luck with your search. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
Edited by SPP-Ottawa
04/06/2012 11:44 am
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folcan99...Post the two coins with the same picture, say, with both pics of one of the maple leafs to do a measure from the leafs to the beads.
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There is no question in the fact that the beads are close to any object, what I'm saying is that they are somewhat different from the rim of the coin. If you look at the pic, you will see that the beads on the left seems closer because the rim is more exposed as to the right.  |
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folcan99I still haven't made up my mind about this one. Need pics of same leaf on same side to do a measurement... 
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Sorry wert, I have been busy and the only pic I could put here is the ones I already had. I have checked the leaf and they both line up on the same beads. I believe, as I stated before, that it has some thing to do with the rim. Take a close look lol.
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This is almost an impossible exercise, with circulated coins...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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It's an optical delusion.
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lol DBM, as I stated before, it's all in the rim really. I'm surprised that no one has taken their own test.
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LOL @ Who!---I can't believe this has gone two pages worth it's " PMD" clearly! ---I can get a wide rim with a hammer on any penny or run over it with my truck! You don't even show the coin in the same position in the picture and the leaves show heavy abrasion. --- DBM-- I think you nailed it! -- falcan99-- Here's some wisdom if you choose to accept it. If one says no then maybe or two still maybe! ---But when at least "6" say no or express doubt then maybe there right and your not! ---If that still don't do it for you then send it in to get it certified and prove us all wrong and I would be happy for you. ---When you ask for an opinion you should be prepared that the answer might not be what you want and accept it graciously. Not one of us know it all, "but"
we all can learn from one or another!
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04/09/2012 03:04 am
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Ok, I'm not doubting anyone here. All I'm saying is that if you look at the beads and its measurment to the letters, it all looks the same but the difference is the rim of the coin where it looks misleading. Alot of the coins I have from 1984 are really nice with little wear and still have the same effect. In Closing, beads are positioned no different then the other 1984 coins, their all the same but not all the same when you look at it betten the Rim to the beads. Sorry guys, this is something I noticed when I put the 2 together.   Edited by folcan99
04/09/2012 07:59 am
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Hi Nuemustman here is a quote from wert.
Hi folcan99
I took your picture of the 2 coins and drew a line on both of them with a program called Shutter from the beads to the edge of your coins...Then brought it up in a program called Gimp to do a measure.
1 - Coin on left measured 74.7 pixels.
2 - Coin on right measured 75.1 pixels.
I would say they are equal, and any variation may be caused by my eyes (everyone would draw the lines a little different in length)
Most people here didnt seem to understand what I was trying to point here, the rims are not round but if you look at the beads on both pics, you will see that one is near the rounded inner rim and the other farther. Now when I say inner rim, I mean the inner circle that has a sort of a drop where you see a shadow, not the actual outer rim which is not rounder or the actual coin itself, thats what makes it look like a near and far bead. Anyways I gave up on this topic as people didnt understand what I was try to point out. They came to their own conclusion. Thanks
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So is it safe to say then that the variety could be think and this rim? Guy on ebay selling these shows nice measurements but the rim is definately thicker on the near beads. |
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