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Convert More Cash To Pms To Protect From Government?

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 Posted 04/01/2012  02:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am debating on transferring more of my cash into PMs because of this Obamacare bill. They can have full access to your bank account and some other scary stuff!

PMs and guns might be the best thing coming up soon.
Scary link:

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 Posted 04/01/2012  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bekiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have any money left on my bank account other than my salary coming every month.
I am shopaholic right now - spending as much as I can on PM coins ))
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 Posted 04/01/2012  05:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would do it!
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 Posted 04/01/2012  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good call
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Money in the bank:

Interest at roughly 1%

FDIC Basically going to be bankrupt because of massive move of Derivatives in the High Trillions into FDIC Insured Institutions.

MFGlobal fiasco showed that they can raid customers accounts for money and
Silver and Gold for which customers had certificates of ownership
Basically a safety deposit box raid. And nothing is done criminally.

Yea a Bank is the safest place I can think to keep anything
Except Money, Gold, Silver or anything of value.
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 Posted 04/01/2012  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do what you want, but don't base your decision on claims made in a three year old partisan political YouTube video.
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Money in the bank:

Interest at roughly 1%

FDIC Basically going to be bankrupt because of massive move of Derivatives in the High Trillions into FDIC Insured Institutions.

I'm with Stewart on this and would add, that paper money saved in the bank is a losing proposition. Bernanke said that inflation in 2011 was about 3.5%. John Williams, who is trustworthy, unlike Bernanke, says that it is closer to 10%. Either way you slice it, paper money saved is money lost. The only real question seems to be how fast its buying power disappears. This is why gold and silver are REAL money and not paper figments of someone's imagination.

Also, having an account at a Credit Union is definitely the way to go. They are a local business and do not get into all that derivative crud that the big banks so love. I have a SD Box at a local CU and keep about 1/3 of my silver hoard in it. They have a very secure vault area in which the boxes are located and 24/7 audio / video monitoring. I can't duplicate that protection level at home without spending a lot of money that I would prefer to spend on PMs. There is no way I would do this with JPM, BofA, Citi, GS, or MS.


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FDIC Basically going to be bankrupt because of massive move of Derivatives in the High Trillions into FDIC Insured Institutions.

All of the governments on Earth, if combined into one, could not bail out this crazy derivatives market. It is just too HUGE for that. The last numbers I saw on this showed derivatives growing rapidly and crossing the $800T level. Other sources say that it is higher, so maybe it depends on how it is counted. In any case, it is insane that this so-called business is allowed to exist when its mere existence threatens the economic future and well-being of every person on Earth. There is nothing that banks can do for us that comes at all close to the size of the risk they are shoving off onto us. That this is not illegal is pretty strong evidence that the bribes are flowing to those who could stop it but aren't.

If the world economy crashes, it will be because these giant dominoes are falling and crushing the financial life out of everything they touch. There are so many of these and they are so inter-locked with others that there will be no isolated derivatives collapses. Once they start imploding, they will all implode.
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Well said Ed!
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Ed_B,

As well laid out and explained as I have heard to date
Yet many people just do not get what a precarious position
they are in thanks to the current banking system
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 Posted 04/01/2012  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess it is a good idea but items like 401K and IRAs are hard to do unless you liquidate
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 Posted 04/01/2012  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My only fear is that things will get better, because how crazy would that be!
All our holdings would become worthless. The better school of thought is to put your money into consumable items you'll be using anyways (food and fuel), that way if nothing happens you simply don't go grocery shopping for 3 months.
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 Posted 04/01/2012  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes consumable items are very necessary as well after that comes PM
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I am in similar situation the Bekiz, and I can HONESTLY say if Obama an company is so desperate that they need to tap into Silverhawk's bank account, we all might as well take some Jonestown cool aide....
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I only keep what I need to pay bills in my account; but that's not the point is it? Anything that infringes on our privacy is anathema to what this country was supposed to stand for. We've truly lost our way.
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Libertad, true, but what if you have a sum of money after you have your 3 months supply of food, even 6 month supply?
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Yes Treevin a lot now a days is infringing on our privacy. Way too much
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