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 Posted 04/04/2012  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are right Tim, and I was at the front of the soap box "silver to pass 75 an oz. camp by easter", lol.....

Oh HOW wrong was I, at least through the first quarter of the year anyway....

Still long way to go yet, an most games are won in the 4th quarter.....
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04/04/2012 9:11 pm
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 Posted 04/04/2012  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hawk,

We're on opposite ends of the spectrum. I think silver can, and will, get to $20 again this summer. My rationale is an economic downturn coupled with high gas prices; stagflation, if you will. But like Tim reminded us, it's a guessing game, and silver and gold will go where the powers that be feel its most advantageous... to them
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 Posted 04/04/2012  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was also wrong in predicting Silver would rise to $40-$50 by Springtime. But, I don't think this small percentage drop means anything more than Big Players taking profits. I'm still in the group tht expects Silver to rise and maybe double in the near future. The Wall Street and Government games can only last so long.
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 Posted 04/04/2012  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am guessing the bottom will be at $28. If you look at some other posts, I guess the market would drop and silver would go with it.

To further my prediction, stocks will drop to the 12,700 levels (eventually) and silver will be about $28 then. But I expect silver to hit $50 before year end. (it all depends on how the government keeps manipulating it)

Just my guesses :)
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 Posted 04/05/2012  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverEye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For every dollar silver is under $30, I am going to double my weekly buy amount. Bargain!
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 Posted 04/06/2012  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The Wall Street and Government games can only last so long.

I would agree with that 100%. Unfortunately, there are some really big money players involved in this and they can last a long time... unlike most of us.
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 Posted 04/07/2012  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elkslayer132 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heard a rumor today at coin shop that Hong Kong is going to open a PM Exchange around july and when they do prices are going crash.
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"Heard a rumor today at coin shop that Hong Kong is going to open a PM Exchange around july and when they do prices are going crash."

I don't know jack to the squat on this, but seems like to me if China is just now indeed becoming aware of PM's in say larger percentage numbers as I have heard here already, which is a drastic change from before via a HUGE number of new buyers an Pm's sold, then would that not equate to increased prices?

Seems like simple supply an demand. Why build PM exchange, if there was not tons of money to be made. Their currency is not exactly clear of the woods these days, setting high on the mountain, as they got a major HOUSING issue to deal with, not to mention, energy, population, food or lack there of...

Price drops on physical silver lets look at history for a second, and when we do that a drift back 32 years to 1980 is pretty common.....

So the Hunt bros MONOPOLY on silver got the ol stick in the spokes, via the government slapping regulations on to the AMOUNT of silver units they could sell to one set buyer. This lead to many silver orders once filled now left vacant which must move, so dump it into the market at lesser an lesser prices until it all moves in order to counter the new regulations, via MINIMIZING the damage. Losing ones shirt, just in the end do ya wanna lose 20 shirts, or just 10, lol....

An what did those big wigs care about driving the price down to dirt level for the next 30 years, it was every man for themselves at that point, and the ramifications were irrelevant. Who knew it would stay down 25 plus years as well.....

Now then I could have that Hunt bro theory 180 degree BACKWARDS, but the was how I understood it from reading about the above paragraph in my first days posting on this forum....
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04/07/2012 11:00 pm
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 Posted 04/08/2012  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't know jack to the squat on this, but seems like to me if China is just now indeed becoming aware of PM's in say larger percentage numbers as I have heard here already, which is a drastic change from before via a HUGE number of new buyers an Pm's sold, then would that not equate to increased prices?


That's what I was thinking. Between Chinese and Indian citizens gaining affluence and the growth of the middle class in the BRIC countries, I would assume PM prices will rise, not fall. Where is an Austrian-model economist when you need one? Keynesian economists need not respond.
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Between Chinese and Indian citizens gaining affluence and the growth of the middle class in the BRIC countries, I would assume PM prices will rise, not fall.

I would agree with that, Trae. Asian demand has been strong and is growing fast from year to year. If the western bullion banks, CME, COMEX, etc. keep playing their idiotic "crush the PM price" game, ALL of it will eventually be in Asian, Russian, and Brazilian hands because they are buying heavily, especially on the price dips. Guess what happens then. Yep, a new world PM money standard. Tough noogie for everyone who does not have REAL money then!

There was a lot of talk last year about a new Bullion Exchange opening in China but that seems to have been delayed for some reason... not sure what. Could it be back on again? If so, a real metals exchange where real metal is bought and sold but not paper PMs would be sure to gather in a lot of PM investment money. I'm wondering if the COMEX would survive such an event.
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i read a thread about this exchange on Kitco and it was kill by some big money guys
i will see if I can find the link
found it
https://www.kitcomm.com/showthread.php?t=103100
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04/08/2012 8:05 pm
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I am guessing the bottom will be at $28. If you look at some other posts, I guess the market would drop and silver would go with it.

To further my prediction, stocks will drop to the 12,700 levels (eventually) and silver will be about $28 then. But I expect silver to hit $50 before year end. (it all depends on how the government keeps manipulating it)

Just my guesses :)

I am of the opinion that when the stock marked goes into a down turn investors take their money out and buy Pm's.
That would or should have the effect of boosting the price of silver and gold
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Presuming there isn't a rush to dump PMs in order to meet margin calls.

Don't trust numbers you see reported on the economy, rather than blinding us with brilliance they are trying to baffle us.
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I am of the opinion that when the stock marked goes into a down turn investors take their money out and buy Pm's.
That would or should have the effect of boosting the price of silver and gold


That makes sense and it's definitely what I thought; but in 2008, PMs rode the stock market straight down to 52-week lows and only began to recovery as the market recovered. Oddly enough, the people who pulled out of stocks put their money in T-Bills, which boosted the US dollar against currencies like Canada, New Zealand, and Australia, (which may use gold to back their money- not sure about this?). It seems counter intuitive to head toward US government bonds when we have a higher debt than GDP, especially with real, safe money right their in plain view, but that's exactly what happened.
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i read a thread about this exchange on Kitco and it was kill by some big money guys

I read that thread but it seemed more like speculation and less like real info. If I understand what I have read elsewhere, the Chinese government was involved in putting the new Pan Asian Gold Exchange (PAGE) on hold but I never really read a good explanation as to why they did that or when / if they intend to proceed with it.

I did find some info here: http://www.bullionstreet.com/news/c...-trouble/683 but this is from late in December of 2011. I was hoping to find something more recent on this.

More recent info is here: http://politicalmetals.com/2012/03/...-the-making/ but it has me wondering if it will meet the same fate as PAGE. :-/
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