1804 Draped Bust --- Counterfeit/Fake Or Real?

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Lightwind_99 Valued Member Philippines 52 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 06:04 am Hi Guys, I have this 1804 Draped bust but I think something is different and I having the a doubt its a fake. any help will do thank you:) Image: a1.jpg 68.04 KB Edited by Metalman 02/04/2007 2:48 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Ken_3567 Pillar of the Community United States 651 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 07:48 am I'm pretty sure the U.S. didn't release a half dollar in 1804. Ooops, scratch that last sentence. I just realized the coin is a dollar and not a half dollar. I haven;t had my second cup of coffee so I must still be asleep Edited by Ken_3567 02/04/2007 07:53 am Report this Post to the Staff
tights24 Pillar of the Community United States 2254 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 08:29 am The only thing that stands out at first glance is the star by the "Y" in liberty. I am only comparing to pictures online that I know to be real, but it seems like the star is too close to the "Y", or just in the wrong place per say. I could be way off. If it's real, I would think that it is ridiculously rare, if I'm looking at things correctly. Which doesn't help the skepticism here..... Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 08:42 am here is a good site to study up on and see if yours looks to be done the same way as any of these http://mywebpages.comcast.net/reidg.../page_7.html and here is a page with real 1804 dollars on it look and see if it looks like any of them also http://mywebpages.comcast.net/reidg.../page_3.html Edited by Bryan1315 02/04/2007 08:44 am Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 12:42 pm Lightwind, there are only 15 1804 Dollars in existence. Any one of them coming onto the market will become the most expensive coin ever sold. The chances of your coin being real are infinitesimal. Report this Post to the Staff
Southern Yankee Pillar of the Community United States 891 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 1:49 pm I was looking up at coinfacts.com and ran across this same coin there. Or at least the pictures look the same as in identical. Here is the link. http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dol...r_dollar.htm Don't get me wrong I am not saying you don't have this coin, but is that the correct picture? Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 2:22 pm looks like the same picture from coinfacts to me also Report this Post to the Staff
morganman Valued Member United States 397 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 3:57 pm Why do people pull this kind of stuff? Can you say "Lost Credibility"? MM Edited by morganman 02/04/2007 3:58 pm Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 4:38 pm quote: Why do people pull this kind of stuff? Can you say "Lost Credibility"? All the same, it's only fair and appropriate that the member be allowed to respond before anyone passes any judgement. I'm not comfortable with the direction this could take; don't expect it to be tolerated should it do so. Report this Post to the Staff
birdman Valued Member United States 100 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 5:51 pm Looks like the same pic,even down to the dipple! BIRD EYE VIEW OUT. Report this Post to the Staff
tights24 Pillar of the Community United States 2254 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 7:24 pm Lightwind, can you post a better pic? Maybe something at a little different angle? Thanks Report this Post to the Staff
edix Valued Member United States 270 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 8:04 pm Anne Bingham's Legacy: 1804 Dollar http://mywebpages.comcast.net/reidg.../page_3.html Counterfeit Draped Bust Dollars http://mywebpages.comcast.net/reidg.../page_7.html Draped Bust Dollar Replicas http://mywebpages.comcast.net/reidg...page_7a.html Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 02/04/2007 9:14 pm if it is the coin pictures at coin facts there is still the question on whether it is authentic or not, it seems this is a class III coin which means mine employee's minted it to sell to collectors because there were only 8 class I's made. So to some numismatists these are nothing but fakes made to deceive just as if someone at the mint producing some older coin now and getting it out of the mint and him doing it to deceive collectors Report this Post to the Staff
Lightwind_99 Valued Member Philippines 52 Posts	Posted 02/05/2007 02:03 am O oh! in truth I purchased this coin from a private deal. I thought I already owned it without having it in my possesion as of yet since my buyer told me its been sent thru mail. I thought of posting this picture to ask everybody's general opinion because I'm having skepticism. And I didnt knew it was one of the rarest coin, I sincerely didnt imagine it'll create this kind of scandal that will loose my credibility. I would like to thank southern Yankee for the link that gave me an insight about my private dealing that got me on alert that I have bought a piece with a picture taken from another site. i got Duped!!!! I'm so sorry for the ruckus guys I really didnt know!!!! i'll just be quiet for now. Thank you. i need to settle a score with my seller! Report this Post to the Staff
Mynt Valued Member Sweden 79 Posts	Posted 02/05/2007 08:16 am I don't think anybody meant to be quick to judge. People didn't realize the coin you posted was just an example picture-- rather than the acual coin itself... Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 02/05/2007 09:16 am I think there is a valuable lesson here. A picture is only a picture after all and it can be copied. An unscrupulous seller can switch coins or just never send a coin. It would be a short term scam but it has been reported many times. So I guess we really need to know our sellers! Seems that's been said before. Lightwind_99 - I would say it is not YOUR credibility at stake but rather the fellow who sold the coin to you. Does he/she have a name, website or ebay identity so that we can check out his stuff? Sounds like it could be fun! Report this Post to the Staff
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1804 Draped Bust --- Fake Or Real?