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4th Century Romans- Question: Soldiers And Standards Reverse

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 Posted 04/08/2012  12:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a question regarding the Soldiers and Standards reverse type seen on some 4th century Romans. Although I have seen the reverse type featuring two standards on the coins of Constantine as well as his sons, was the type in which there was only one standard between the two soldiers only issued under Constantine?

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 Posted 04/08/2012  02:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eddop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According Helvetica's RIC-list soldiers with one standard for:

Constans
Constantine I
Constantine II
Constantius II
Delmatius

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Two standards came first. Shortly before Constantine I died, the weight of coins was reduced and the second standard disappeared. All two standard coins issued by an Augustus belong to Constantine I because the change occurred while the sons were still just Caesars. Constantine I issued some coins with one standard but when he died Constantine II started issuing one standard coins using the title Augustus (AVG on obverse). These can be confusing. All the coins of Constans and Constantius II as Augustus will have just one standard. There will be coins with part legends that are missing name portions so you can't tell which boy it belonged to but any coin with two standards AND the title AVG on the obverse is dad's.
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Eddop & dougsmit- Ah, thanks for clearing this up! I was just wondering since I have a coin from an uncleaned lot that has nice bust details and the reverse is fairly nice. But the flan was clipped or it was struck on a weird planchet. So There really is no lettering on either side. So this is kind of frustrating.
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Seems to me that I heard somewhere (unfortunately I can't remember where at the moment) that the 2 standards reverse was issued during the time earlier in Constantine's reign when the Roman Empire was divided into 2 halves - the East and the West - and that the 1 standard reverse was issued after he had more or less united the 2 halves once again into a single empire - the last time the roman empire was one unified whole. Is this true or am I just blowing smoke here? Any ideas?
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