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 Posted 04/15/2012  05:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have seen rolls of coins on ebay which have been made by companies (eg Chubb) rather than the mint.
How can the sellers (and buyers) know if the roll contains all the same coins, or just randomly has a particular coin on the end?
I have been through many Chubb rolls and the ones I have seen have never been only 1 type of coin.
example of a listing like this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-SILVER...em519b23b132
Please note, I am not saying that this item is not as described, I just want to know how anyone can be sure about what it is.
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 Posted 04/15/2012  05:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that was a roll of Captain Cooks or rams heads I would buy it in a heartbeat
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 Posted 04/15/2012  05:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well Trout,
Here is one I saw earlier, but the same question applies.
How do you know what is in the middle?!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-50c-UN...em4cfe7a1893
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 Posted 04/15/2012  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For 50c there is only twenty coins per roll. What are the chances of having both the same coins in UNC condition on the ends? Its not fool proof of course and I would never trust it but really thats probably a bit paranoid.
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 Posted 04/15/2012  06:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that roll of rams heads has been opened, so definitely no bid on that baby.
I agree with you that you are taking the seller on trust that all 20 coins are UNC and all the same.
I do not like buying a pig in a poke unless I have dealt with the seller on a prior occasion and been happy with the outcome.
At 250 plus shipping I could buy 5-6 1991 mint sets and know for certain the coins are UNC
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 Posted 04/15/2012  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are heaps of them on ebay that are UNC condition that go for way under $10. I didnt have a look at the price but $250 is way too much.
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 Posted 04/15/2012  06:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
but $250 is way too much.


I could buy a couple of real sheep for that and fill the freezer with some tasty chops and roasts
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 Posted 04/15/2012  06:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dibby33 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the clincher for me : "PICTURE IS FOR ILLUSTRATION ONLY , SIMILAR COINS WILL BE SENT"

Avoid.
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I was not wanting to buy either, just to find out how anyone can know/claim a non-RAM roll is all one type of coin since I have never opened a non-RAM roll and they have all been the same coin.
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 Posted 04/15/2012  06:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no way to tell without opening the roll.
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Hi ozcoins, hmm I wonder if somebody is just noodling out all the same dates from a load of circulated/used coins from a bank , printing out a security logo on some paper and then using one of these .
(turn sound off ).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gssMyP46obA .presto instant security roll
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 Posted 04/15/2012  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FNQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Speaking of coin machinery, this has to be my favourite.
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 Posted 04/15/2012  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is very quick but gives the coins a heck of a beating
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 Posted 04/15/2012  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrcruise to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your question poses the ultimate dilema, which is to the benefit of sellers - how to you know? Basically, you do not know without opening the wrapping. The dilema is once you do you cannot consider item to be a roll, or at least, a roll in unooened condiion.

I heard some of the Federation 50c rolls sold on ebay were not all fed 50c oins inside - the buyer obviously opened the roll to find this out.

If you want to play it safe stick to RAM released rolls - with security rolls you are taking a chnace either way
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