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1870-S Morgan Dollar (Yeah, Right!)

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 Posted 04/25/2012  9:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add statmatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do you think is going on here? An altered 1878? Why would someone do that? Maybe it's a Chinese fake. These are the best photos I've got. Any ideas?

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 Posted 04/25/2012  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What? I dont see what the problem is with that. Looks perfectly fine to me.

seriously, not sure at all. Kind of stupid as a fantasy piece as the Seated is a near unique coin on its own. But it does indeed look like an altered 78.
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 Posted 04/25/2012  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fascinating. Second one in a week.

https://goccf.com/t/116854
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 Posted 04/25/2012  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bluntedbobylon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
? When I click the link all I get is:

There Was A Problem

You do not have access to this forum.

Are there private forums?
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? When I click the link all I get is:

There Was A Problem

You do not have access to this forum.

Are there private forums?


It was me - I managed to lop a digit off the thread URL when I copy/pasted it. Fixed now.
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 Posted 04/26/2012  02:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, 2 examples of the same date in one week. Someone in China has been busy! It does not make sense that someone would alter an 1878 date to 1870. It sounds like a cast example and the counterfeiter picked a bad date. Not the first time that has happened.
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 Posted 04/26/2012  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost certainly altered.
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04/27/2012 02:03 am
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 Posted 04/26/2012  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enoilgam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, at least this fake/altered coin is easy to detect. Nothing worse then a top quality fake.
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I dunno. For both, there remains the remote possibility in my mind that they're altered 1879's, especially given the weakness of the zeros on each. For the life of me, though, I wouldn't know why.
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Reverse lettering also looks weak to me. IMHO
But the biggest stand out is GREEN bronze

Not too surprising on something dated older than it could be.
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04/26/2012 07:08 am
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Fascinating. Second one in a week.

Two threads, different pictures, same coin.
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very easy to detect, few months ago someone tried to sell me an 1888 CC - obviously we all know a fake!! gotta love it
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, statmatics!

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Two threads, different pictures, same coin.

I sit corrected, they are the same coin. I change my opinion to altered date.
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 Posted 04/27/2012  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add f16 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
statmatics to ccf

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 Posted 04/27/2012  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markj11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did the op change his name and doctor the pictures to try to get a different answer?
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